GZA - "Victim" (thoughts / love / hate)

[claaa7]

I'm listening to "Beneath the Surface" right now, been a while.. i personally always loved this album, from the lyrics and GZA's performance, to the guests, to the production, to the overall mood of the disc and even the cover art which i thought was amazing. some people don't feel like this though and thought it had way too much filler (huh?!)

one of the tracks i've seen catching most flack over the years is "Victim". a song i always liked a lot, i don't know what's wrong with it really? do you mislike it just because it have a girl singing a hook on it LOL.. GZA has an amazing verses, Njeri is dope and the production really adds to the concept. there's absolutely no wrong with this track imo, i have never skipped it and probably never will. it fits on the album too.

the only song i was dissapointed in was "Stringplay", especially in the shadow of "Shadowboxin'". it sounded a little too happy-go-lucky to me but even that has grown on me, lyrically it's HOT!! GZA was on fire throughout the entire "B.T.S." and "The W" sessions.

[claaa7]

i think GZA's verse on "Victim" is real visual also, if i close my eyes i can see the shit happening like a movie.

"The young is lost at their own cost, dreamin'/
Screaming how they never hold positions that's demeaning/
Brothers of murder victims share the same grief/
The elderly shake their heads in disbelief/
And no relief came till I aimed and blast one shot/
And left my name...... THE GZA!"

whatever happened to Njeri, i remember reading something a long time ago about her being affilliated with some pretty big musicians but can't remember who. maybe Jermaine Dupri or Irv Gotti? what's the word?

[JASPER BEARDLY]

i think she had a kid

this song is dope. i don't think there's a weak verse on the album, even dreddy's (every verse i spit gets mastered and promoted lol)

always thought this album was great. a classic to me. not a fan of the skits but they don't drag on

[Kutman]

Used to hate it, sounded too viva tv like for me if u know what i'm sayin', but it grew on me over the years.

[corky831]

i love it

[wukillabee25]

Shit's ill. My second favorite GZA album.

[Chris Stylez]

whatever happened to Njeri, i remember reading something a long time ago about her being affilliated with some pretty big musicians but can't remember who. maybe Jermaine Dupri or Irv Gotti? what's the word?

she was signed to MCA for a year or so was in 8 mile then left the label and dropped her debut herself. she actually had 2 or 3 children. she's insanely ill on the mic and cool as fuck too. she's on my album and hopefully she can be on more of my projects in the future

[New Hills 36]

love that track. Could have done with a 2nd GZA verse to make it perfect - but a really great track on a really great lp

[muscularghandi]

Hip Hop Fury is a top 10 Wu-Tang posse cut, beat-wise it's an absolute neck breaker.

Victim isn't the best song, but it definitely doesn't ruin the LP.

[claaa7]

she was signed to MCA for a year or so was in 8 mile then left the label and dropped her debut herself. she actually had 2 or 3 children. she's insanely ill on the mic and cool as fuck too. she's on my album and hopefully she can be on more of my projects in the future

great news, thanks for that.. looking forward to hearing her on your project. how was her album then, did the production live up to her lyrical skills?

love that track. Could have done with a 2nd GZA verse to make it perfect - but a really great track on a really great lp

co-sign on GZA second verse

[THE W]

this album much like tical 2000 was held back by dumbass skits.

victim is a cool album cut where GZA paints a nice picture of growing up trife in the hood. i would never skip it.

[THE MASON]

BTS one of my favourite Wu albums period.

Victim is a joint to put on late at night and zone out with imo. visual shit that GZA is always on point with.

title track
amplified sample
1112
crash ya crew
feel like an enemy
high price, small reward
the outro

bangers for days. like C7 the only track i didnt care for was Stringplay.

also Allah Math was super on point with his beat on this album

[the silencer]

I think u could say GZA was approaching his prime on this album..


Criminally underrated record but it's loaded with dopeness


Of all the Wu shit that came out in that wonderful year of 99 (Clientele being the most heralded), BTS is one of the best gems

[TAURO]

This album only marginally grew on me. I never thought it was a bad album per say, it just failed to fully connect with me. Album cover is dope though.

[Hollow Dartz]

Corny.