in north america
the rise of occultism in the 20th century has so many parallels to the rise of esoteric islamic groups its ridiculous
there is something bubbling under the surface
and a lot of people got soft feet
in north america
the rise of occultism in the 20th century has so many parallels to the rise of esoteric islamic groups its ridiculous
there is something bubbling under the surface
and a lot of people got soft feet
all the points have been made
god is your brainOriginally Posted by Jamal Noor
mohammed is your voice box and sometimes your finger tips
a pen
or
a keyboard
unless youre into sign language
then mohammed is your entire upper body
or smoke signals
then you need a towel
there is no god but god
mohammed is his messenger
i knwo what metaphors are
all the points have been made
Originally Posted by Jamal Noor
it all depends on how you view who or what this god is
if you see god as some type of energy being that resides somewhere past our skies then yes it should be shirk to you - even though people say that its just the way arabs speak arabic when dealing with the fact that in the quaran, when allah speaks, HE says WE - i say nope, the bible does the same when its saying _ WE created MAN in OUR image..._
some people view god as a six armed purple elephant - but when they are told that they are idol worshippin they say "no i'm not, this statue just represents the true and livin -
some people follow the movements of the sun to make prayer - but when they are told they are worshipping the sun, they say,"no i'm not"
but they don't give an explanation
when you ask a christian - how is jesus himself and god at the same time - they reply "you just have to believe"
when you tell muslims that its wrong to kiss hug and cry on that grand building in mecca - they reply _ "well its an intense thing alot of people went through hell to get to the kaaba and thats why they act like that when they get there"
everyone wants to be right - and those who truly seek truth and not religion (rely on jinn) will always change and grow much more efficiently than those who stay in one place believing in nonsense
Last edited by LORD NOSE; 02-09-2006 at 02:23 PM.
i do agree with you there, thats a valid point..Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
alot of things do get misinterperated..
lemme just explain the Kaabah thing tho...
1st of all the love expressed for the building is because it is Alllah's house..
Built by Abraham..and people rush to touch the golden door.
Originally Posted by Jamal Noor
you see that there ?
why do they rush to touch the golden door ?
do they believe that it will give them some type of power or blessings from touching it ?
The reason being is that is what the Prophet (pbuh) did..
he also kissed the black stone..which is a stone from heaven that was white
and the more corrupt the world gets the blacker the stone gets..there is only
one spec of white left on the stone..and apparently when the whole stone is covered..then the day of judgment will arive..
all these years and i didn't know that - is that really true though - are you muslim ?
kissing a stone belived to be from heaven makes it all worst - these rituals and practices are all shirk
rock kissing
sun worship
golden door touching
muslims don't do these things - who are you ?
now whos being arogant?..
look man..i am a Muslim..not a practising one, but i know about my faith..
i don;t need to defend islam to your or any one..
if you think im lying, look it up...
im not going to watse my time talking to some one whos narrow minded and totaly irrational..
peace
Originally Posted by Jamal Noor
ok that cleared that up - welcome
but where in my replies was i irrational ?
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