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    in north america
    the rise of occultism in the 20th century has so many parallels to the rise of esoteric islamic groups its ridiculous




    there is something bubbling under the surface
    and a lot of people got soft feet
    all the points have been made

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamal Noor
    im not being aragont brother, im just stating my opinion...

    The reason it is shirk is because the first prayer you say to enter Islam..is ''There is no God But God, And Mohammed is his messenger''..
    No if you proclaim to be God..don;t you think that qualifies as Shirk?..

    and dont talk to me about racism lol..i am british/asian muslim living in west london...nuff said.
    god is your brain
    mohammed is your voice box and sometimes your finger tips
    a pen
    or
    a keyboard

    unless youre into sign language
    then mohammed is your entire upper body

    or smoke signals
    then you need a towel



    there is no god but god
    mohammed is his messenger

    i knwo what metaphors are
    all the points have been made

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamal Noor
    im not being aragont brother, im just stating my opinion...

    The reason it is shirk is because the first prayer you say to enter Islam..is ''There is no God But God, And Mohammed is his messenger''..
    No if you proclaim to be God..don;t you think that qualifies as Shirk?..

    and dont talk to me about racism lol..i am british/asian muslim living in west london...nuff said.

    it all depends on how you view who or what this god is
    if you see god as some type of energy being that resides somewhere past our skies then yes it should be shirk to you - even though people say that its just the way arabs speak arabic when dealing with the fact that in the quaran, when allah speaks, HE says WE - i say nope, the bible does the same when its saying _ WE created MAN in OUR image..._

    some people view god as a six armed purple elephant - but when they are told that they are idol worshippin they say "no i'm not, this statue just represents the true and livin -

    some people follow the movements of the sun to make prayer - but when they are told they are worshipping the sun, they say,"no i'm not"
    but they don't give an explanation

    when you ask a christian - how is jesus himself and god at the same time - they reply "you just have to believe"


    when you tell muslims that its wrong to kiss hug and cry on that grand building in mecca - they reply _ "well its an intense thing alot of people went through hell to get to the kaaba and thats why they act like that when they get there"


    everyone wants to be right - and those who truly seek truth and not religion (rely on jinn) will always change and grow much more efficiently than those who stay in one place believing in nonsense
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
    it all depends on how you view who or what this god is
    if you see god as some type of energy being that resides somewhere past our skies then yes it should be shirk to you - even though people say that its just the way arabs speak arabic when dealing with the fact that in the quaran, when allah speaks, HE says WE - i say nope, the bible does the same when its saying _ WE created MAN in OUR image..._

    some people view god as a six armed purple elephant - but when they are told that they are idol worshippin they say "no i'm not, this statue just represents the true and livin -

    some people follow the movements of the sun to make prayer - but when they are told they are worshipping the sun, they say,"no i'm not"
    but they don't give an explanation

    when you ask a christian - how is jesus himself and god at the same time - they reply "you just have to believe"


    when you tell muslims that its wrong to kiss hug and cry on that grand building in mecca - they reply _ "well its an intense thing alot of people went through hell to get to the kaaba and thats why they act like that when they get there"


    everyone wants to be right - and those who truly seek truth and not religion (rely on jinn) will always change and grow much more efficiently than those who stay in one place believing in nonsense
    i do agree with you there, thats a valid point..
    alot of things do get misinterperated..

    lemme just explain the Kaabah thing tho...
    1st of all the love expressed for the building is because it is Alllah's house..
    Built by Abraham..and people rush to touch the golden door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamal Noor
    i do agree with you there, thats a valid point..
    alot of things do get misinterperated..

    lemme just explain the Kaabah thing tho...
    1st of all the love expressed for the building is because it is Alllah's house..
    Built by Abraham..and people rush to touch the golden door.

    you see that there ?

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    why do they rush to touch the golden door ?

    do they believe that it will give them some type of power or blessings from touching it ?

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    The reason being is that is what the Prophet (pbuh) did..
    he also kissed the black stone..which is a stone from heaven that was white
    and the more corrupt the world gets the blacker the stone gets..there is only
    one spec of white left on the stone..and apparently when the whole stone is covered..then the day of judgment will arive..

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    all these years and i didn't know that - is that really true though - are you muslim ?


    kissing a stone belived to be from heaven makes it all worst - these rituals and practices are all shirk

    rock kissing
    sun worship
    golden door touching


    muslims don't do these things - who are you ?

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    now whos being arogant?..

    look man..i am a Muslim..not a practising one, but i know about my faith..

    i don;t need to defend islam to your or any one..
    if you think im lying, look it up...

    im not going to watse my time talking to some one whos narrow minded and totaly irrational..

    peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamal Noor
    now whos being arogant?..

    look man..i am a Muslim..not a practising one, but i know about my faith..

    i don;t need to defend islam to your or any one..
    if you think im lying, look it up...

    im not going to watse my time talking to some one whos narrow minded and totaly irrational..

    peace

    ok that cleared that up - welcome

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    but where in my replies was i irrational ?

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