YDB Blasts Jay Z For Not Teaching & Says He Wants His Money From Dame Dash

[check two]

Is the mysterious Master Fard Muhammad still on a spaceship?

[Merc Versus]

There's a difference between the corporate-controlled rap business and the genuinely inspired hip hop culture. The corporate rap business is about perpetuating an musical environment that consists of simplistic jingles and images that appeal to our most basic drives.

Hip Hop (named and defined as a culture by Afrika Bambaataa in 1974) consists of four distinctive artistic elements known as graffiti (visual art), breaking (dance), emceeing (poetry), and deejaying (music)...also the 5th element of KNOWLEDGE, which ties it all together.

While rap is a business based on marketing sexually explicit and violent content to the youth, hip hop was originally used by Bambaataa as a deterrent from the crime and drugs of the inner city. He transformed the Black Spades street gang into a community organization and held events (called jams) where the youth could express themselves in an artistic manner as opposed to a violent one.

I know....the Supreme Alphabet is so far-fetched. Ever heard of something called the Military Alphabet? Bravo, Charlie, Delta...

[TSA]

Once again, let's separate traditional Islam from NOI teachings and NOI teachings from NGE. It's not all one thing. Traditional Islam is a global faith with an estimated 1 billion adherents of all races and economic backgrounds. The NOI was an organization founded in the 1930s by the mysterious Master Fard Muhammad, spread throughout the United States under the leadership of Elijah Muhammad, and popularized by Malcolm X before his departure. The NGE was founded in the 1960s by a former NOI member and blossomed during the civil rights era, eventually weaving its way into what we now know as hip hop culture.

During the heyday of the Nation of Islam, Elijah Muhammad (with the help of Malcolm X) opened mosques, schools, and storefronts all across the US, the remnants of which can still be seen today (there are still a multitude of NOI mosques in most major cities in the United States). This was all an unheard of accomplishment for people of color at the time. Even a major sports star, Muhammad Ali, was an affiliate.

Not to knock Jay Z and all of his grand corporate transactions, but how can his own personally accumulated wealth compare to the impact of an organization such as the aforementioned?

How does the inspiration provided by Jay Z signing a sports deal translate into a substantial motivational impact in the life of a working class rap fan? Does bragging about your material possessions to others miraculously transform them into educated entrepreneurs or does it desensitize them to things that really matter in life such as self-respect, a moral compass, a good education, and organizational skills or worse...encourage them to get that gwap, nigga, by ANY MEANS NECESSARY?

That bragging still speak to the aspirational nature of hip hop. More importantly people are watching his movements as a businessman more than his lyrics as a rapper because they're producing tangible results.

The old generation of rappers got signed to labels and made songs about how evil labels where and how they were the devil and the white man was evil


This new generation of rappers signs themselves and makes songs about all the cool shit they can buy now that they're the source of their own income. The difference black businesses are expanding and growing at a rate higher than the national average and blacks are the fastest growing entrepreneurial group in America. Once upon a time we led the nation in complaining about record labels, making up religions, and breaking the spelling of our names from Dave to Divine. Allah. Virginity. Embryo.

I would much rather the more hopeful reality that Jay represents than the cartoony and still dehumanizing puppet show of a solution that 'the 5%' teaches.

People like Oprah, Jay, Michael Jordan, etc etc are genuinely empowering more black men and women by example than, idk, The Ghost Face Killah, Ol Dirty Bastard, Poppa Wu, and Killah Priest. Sorry.

Teaching a young man that G stands for God is teaching him that he must manifest the greatest form of existence.

Teaching a young man that Z is Zig Zag Zig teaches him Knowledge (Look, listen, observe, and RESPECT = awareness), Wisdom (wise words, ways, and actions = responsibility), and Understanding (preserve the best part of what you know).

The outcome all depends on the qualifications of the teacher and the dedication of the student.

That's the problem. I don't have to manifest to the greatest form of shit. I'm a human being, why do i have to manifest to 'the greatest form of existence'. I'm a free born man, I don't 'have' to do anything. All of these alleged teaching don't produce tangible results.

Teach that young man to how to program a computer, sew clothing, and where to buy manufacturing commodities and machines. Teach him that the machines used to find oil are for sale on Alibaba.com. That he can turn a burnt out tenanment building into a factory with what's now available to him. Teach him the periodic table of elements and what it implies for his ability to solve human problems, or the importance of the arts. Don't tell someone that's starving and hurt that he's a fucking zig zag.

I agree.... Jay-z shouldn't be held up as some sort of poster boy for success, nor should any other rap star. Lets be honest, rappers have really made there money from spreading negative messages. If you really think about it, how many impressionable youth have probably destroyed there lives, because of what they have heard through rap music ????.

I agree with you, hip hop is one of the worst things to ever happen to young people, ever, but if we're looking at hip hop as a self contained microcosm Jay's presence has been more beneficial to young people than almost any other rapper anyone can think of an especially the 5% ones. The same way hip hop has convinced kids it's ok to call yourself a young dirty bastard as a profession, the 5% has told them it's ok to call yourself Equality and that makes you 'aware' while actual awareness bypasses them.

a lot of 5%ers are curious people, that curiosity could have went to researching diseases as opposed to remixing your name and learning cool terms.

[Cilvaringz]

TSA. Bang!

[TSA]

There's a difference between the corporate-controlled rap business and the genuinely inspired hip hop culture. The corporate rap business is about perpetuating an musical environment that consists of simplistic jingles and images that appeal to our most basic drives.

Hip Hop (named and defined as a culture by Afrika Bambaataa in 1974) consists of four distinctive artistic elements known as graffiti (visual art), breaking (dance), emceeing (poetry), and deejaying (music)...also the 5th element of KNOWLEDGE, which ties it all together.

While rap is a business based on marketing sexually explicit and violent content to the youth, hip hop was originally used by Bambaataa as a deterrent from the crime and drugs of the inner city. He transformed the Black Spades street gang into a community organization and held events (called jams) where the youth could express themselves in an artistic manner as opposed to a violent one.

I know....the Supreme Alphabet is so far-fetched. Ever heard of something called the Military Alphabet? Bravo, Charlie, Delta...

People used Bravo Charlie Delta to take over the world and invent rocket technology. What has come out of the 5% other than a wutang double cd?


'rap' isn't any different from 'hip hop' and ironically enough the rappers that push the most garbage into human culture are the ones that are least dependent on corporate america. All the rappers that keep talking down 'corporate america' are the ones employed by it, we need to stop blaming 'others' for corrupting the naturally corrupt and vile human minstrel show that's hip hop, and no KNOWLEDGE isn't the 5th element, nobody said it was until KRS-one in 2000, which he had 0 authority to decide that.

[Merc Versus]

5% teachings were never meant to represent the be-all and end-all of education then or now. They were used as a motivational platform to uplift a seemingly hopeless section of society. I would never imply that 5% teachings alone would imbue someone with the skills needed to navigate through the modern world, but just because you don't agree with the significance of someone's tradition doesn't mean it has no worth.

Realistically, someone like Ghostface or Killah Priest are more relative to the lifestyle (and tax bracket) of the majority of black Americans than someone like Jay Z or Oprah.

I guess I would only suggest that this rapidly growing entrepeneurial group be careful not to become the new slavemaster regime by way of belittling and trivializing the elders of their community and emulating the hierarchical system of their great-grandparents owners.

[Merc Versus]

Zulu Nation of Harrisburg, PA

[TSA]

5% teachings were never meant to represent the be-all and end-all of education then or now. They were used as a motivational platform to uplift a seemingly hopeless section of society. I would never imply that 5% teachings alone would imbue someone with the skills needed to navigate through the modern world, but just because you don't agree with the significance of someone's tradition doesn't mean it has no worth.

Realistically, someone like Ghostface or Killah Priest are more relative to the lifestyle (and tax bracket) of the majority of black Americans than someone like Jay Z or Oprah.

I guess I would only suggest that this rapidly growing entrepeneurial group be careful not to become the new slavemaster regime by way of belittling and trivializing the elders of their community and emulating the hierarchical system of their great-grandparents owners.

How can you uplift a people that have been lied to with more lies? The 5% is, obviously, based on lies. The person that made it up had good intentions, but it's still not true. Nobody wants to hear that their God and nobody needs to hear it either. If you need to hear that you need real therapy and should seek it. You can turn religion, philosophy and science into therapy. Why take someone from one extreme understand of themselves based on nothing to another extreme based on nothing?


and why do old black people always tie everything to slavery lol.

'Be careful spreading mustard on that sandwich. You know that's how slaves used to like their sandwiches'.

[Merc Versus]

You mean old black people like the king of post-modern pop rap, Jay Z disciple, and blueprint for the entrepeneur of the future, Kanye?

[TSA]

all of them. They all need a new analogy. Any situation where they see a structure is 'slavery'.

'i have a boss at work, IM AH SLAVE'

[Merc Versus]

Hmmm. Those other old, dumb, broke, hippety hoppety black folks must have got to him, too...

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Is that funny Yakub story still the rage?

[Merc Versus]

Fact: Clarence 13X (aka "The Father") received funding from the United States government during the 60s to help him establish Allah School in Mecca Street Academy in Harlem, NYC.

Fact: Clarence 13X (aka "The Father") was a US war veteran.

Fact: In the aftermath of the assassinations of both Malcolm X and MLK, Clarence 13X (aka "The Father") and his organization played an instrumental role in preventing riots and uprisings in his community.

Part of the reason why some members of the NOI took issue with the Father was due to the fact he took the Supreme Wisdom lessons out of the temple, made some slight alterations, and began using them to teach the youth various life principles. Whereas before the teachings were mainly given to adults in the NOI, the Father focused on at-risk youth (hence his nickname). The Supreme Mathematics and Supreme Alphabet were drawn up and added on to the teachings by the Father and his right-hand man Justice to teach principles such as Refinement and Understanding to street kids.

Whereas the NOI viewed the story of Yakub as literal history, the NGE would look at it from a more allegorical perspective with an esoteric meaning. When the teachings say Yakub was exiled from the root of civilization and during said exile grafted the devil, an NGE member might view the devil as a set of negative traits (envy, hatred, greed, or lust) and view Yakub as someone that manifests and nurtures these traits.

Whether or not you think it's outdated, silly, racist, or useless, many people have adhered to the teachings historically and still do...and some of these adherents just so happened to be the source of the Wu-Tang movement. You don't have to be 5% to appreciate the music, but the history still shouldn't be denied or erased. After all, if it's so wretched why support the movement?

Many social clubs use esoteric symbolism and jargon to communicate messages and concepts that the outsider may not be able to understand. What makes it so disgusting to discover poor people from the ghetto did the same thing? Masta Killa has to brush his teeth, do laundry, and pay bills just like the rest of us. If he wants to call himself God and say he's master of the universe manifesting righteousness WHY NOT?

Part of the teachings of the NGE state that God isn't a mystery God, he's a flesh and blood being and one's mind state is the source of everything in his life. This kind of dispels the idea of Gods and Earths being delusional people that think they have supernatural/superhuman abilities. Once you study the teachings, it simply gives you a new angle to view things in life. While this may seem to be utmost blasphemous to a religious person, I don't see it as anymore blasphemous than hypocritically tearing the moral fabric of one's faith for the sake of adapting to the hustle and bustle of the modern rat race.

1. Who is the Original Man?

1) The Original Man - innovative

2) is the Asiatic Black Man - intelligently aggressive

3) The maker - creative

4) Owner - responsible

5) Cream of the planet Earth - the best at what you do

6) Father of Civilization - educated

7) God of the Universe - living life to the fullest

Translated without the cultural terms that disgust everyone:
Be innovative, intelligently aggressive, creative, responsible for what you create, make sure you are the best at what you do, and make sure you EDUCATE YOURSELF in order to make sure you can live life to the fullest.

I'm sure to some of the readers the most repulsive term in the quote above is "black man", but think about who the message was being delivered to in the 60s: ghetto youth. And if you are asking yourself why use all of the above to say what's below it, realize that the package was historically delivered that way and the adherents of the philosophy are paying homage to said history (and the struggle of their elders) by still utilizing those terminologies.

Respect.

[Merc Versus]

Also: Slavery is the root of the American economy and the reason why we are the richest country in the world. All of those years of unpaid labor in the cotton fields of the southern United States paid off.

[Hollow Dartz]

Also: Slavery is the root of the American economy and the reason why we are the richest country in the world. All of those years of unpaid labor in the cotton fields of the southern United States paid off.

Stop wasting your time. You have ignorant white folk. And an Uncle Tom.