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    After listening to this album RZA failed ...again with this album.
    RZA s (vision) producing is too much Motion picture background music.
    Most tracks feel that way to me.
    Just members of the clan that rap to Movie background music.

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    so.. what's wrong with that? RZA's always said he makes albums like movies.
    That's why OB4CL or Liquid Swords are classics

    "I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth" (Rev. 3:15-16)

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    hey maybe you like his production style he has now, back then it was more underground.
    I wasnt talking about his classic style
    This album failed in my opinion.
    Tracks like preachers daughter that track isnt even a hiphop beat

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbconline View Post
    hey maybe you like his production style he has now, back then it was more underground.
    I wasnt talking about his classic style
    This album failed in my opinion.
    Tracks like preachers daughter that track isnt even a hiphop beat
    I just referred to your words about making albums like a movie. RZA's had this style since the beginning.

    The issue of the underground is another topic, but what's wrong with "Preacher's Daughter"? it's cool track

    "I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth" (Rev. 3:15-16)

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    Preacher's Daughter is straight up terrible. It sounds like it was made by a cover band in a bar.
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    Too many bad tracks, feels like a compilation but in a year if somebody posts a poll for if Wu should do another album then most will say yes then come on here and diss the album smh
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    Quote Originally Posted by soob View Post
    I just referred to your words about making albums like a movie. RZA's had this style since the beginning.

    The issue of the underground is another topic, but what's wrong with "Preacher's Daughter"? it's cool track
    You're still misunderstanding. He's not talking about the way the album is organized and thematically arranged. He's talking about the nature of the beats. OB4CL was put together like a movie, but the beats themselves were just standard Hip Hop style beats. The beats on ABT have a lot more going on in general than your average Hip Hop beat.
    Emotions are for the weak, so I sold mine to the highest bidder.

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    Yeah man , RZA changed his style for the worse (8D - heart that gently weeps ????)
    The clan needs to be laced with tight production , lyrically theyll be inspired to spit raw shit.
    If they make another one things need change.

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    Preacher's daughter is extremely dope imo. FAR superior to Heart Gently Weeps imo.

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    IMO Half of the tracks are dope, half are okay, and some of the hooks are almost unlistenable.
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    So far I give the album about a 7/10. RZA just tries to hard sometimes and it comes across as corny. A lot of the tracks on the album sound like they were really good tracks but the more time RZA sat on them the more he started adding elements that just flat out failed. I have very few complaints about the album but the complaints I have are monumental:

    1 - hook on We will Fight SMH
    2 - hook on Keep Watch SMH
    3 - the disney/rock opera parts and beat switch on Ghosts verse in Miracle (extremely corny)
    4 - Preacher's Daughter

    Remove that shit and I'm listening to a 9/10 album imo.


    Still am digging the album but also can't help but be disappointed a bit in some of RZA's production choices.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DThayer36 View Post
    IMO Half of the tracks are dope, half are okay, and some of the hooks are almost unlistenable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSHING PLATYPUS View Post
    Preacher's daughter is extremely dope imo. FAR superior to Heart Gently Weeps imo.
    Definitely, and it shits on most of 8D, by not being boring alone.
    STAY TUNED.

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    Yep I agree about the Miracle complaint. The beat switch alone would've been alright but the rock style hook at the end was unnecessary. I gotta admit I like how the hook is incorporated into the track.

    We Will Fight is the one track I skip, I just can't seem to get into it.

    I agree that Preacher's Daughter is better than Heart Gently Weeps. I think RZA pulled that one of fairly well.

    I like how Felt, Mistaken Identity, Miracle, Necklace, A Better Tomorrow and Never Let Go are all tracks with a clear/central theme. Considering how difficult it was to make the album it's cool that just under half the album are concept tracks.

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    Hearth Gently Weeps >>> Preachers Daughter

    Ghost killed that song
    8 Diagrams >>>>> ABT (with lame ass Nathaniel hooks)

    Production wise, the album is dope imo, just the hooks in songs like Miracle & Keep Watch, Preacher's Daughter fucks up the vibe 4 me

    half 8D & half ABT makes a Wu Classic album

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