ABT [RZA] critics

[CharlesJones]

They got 17 songs on the new album? Wow. Are there any skits on the album?

[Rev Jones]

They got 17 songs on the new album? Wow. Are there any skits on the album?

The ABT album has 15 tracks, Charles, all of them are full songs. There are a few skits at the beginning or end of songs. The 16th track you see online is a bonus track called 'Big Horn'. It's not on the physical album. At least not on mine, and I didn't hear anyone mention it on here. That 'Big Horn' track was put on this music player thingy :

http://store.boombotix.com/collectio...th-anniversary

Sparrow Daene made a combined playlist of 8 Diagrams and A Better Tomorrow in his post.

[CharlesJones]

Oh ok. I didn't know Sparrow combined 8 Diagrams and A Better Tomorrow songs for the tracklisting he put together. I'm not interested in hearing their new album. I'm very disappointed in Wu Tang's group albums after their first album. But like I said before, Wu Tang will always be in my top 5 best rap groups. If they never recorded anymore albums, they have left a good impact on rap and they have influenced a lot of underground rappers.

[Rev Jones]

Campfire
You Can't Stop Me Now
Hold The Heater
Rushing Elephants
Necklace
Weak Spot
Pioneer The Frontier
Watch Your Mouth
Get Them Out Ya Way Pa
Gun Will Go
Sunlight
Take It Back
Mistaken Identity
Wolves
Windmill
Crushed Egos
16th Chamber ? Life Changes ?

Interesting choices here. Great idea to include You Can't Stop Me Now and Watch Your Mouth, which would have lifted 8 Diagrams to a higher level. Too bad they didn't make the cut on 8D for various reasons.

Only 4 songs from ABT though? I think Never Let Go would fit in with the overall atmosphere on your playlist.

[Sparrow Daene]

Maybe "Life Changes" with Ghost's verse from "Family Reunion" on it, considering it is a verse about Dirty and how he misses him, and it's only like 4 bars, just like all the "Life Changes" verses.

I never liked the way that song is structured though. 4 bars - hook, repeat EIGHT TIMES. It was always fucked up to me that Ghostface wasn't on that one.

[Rev Jones]

Maybe "Life Changes" with Ghost's verse from "Family Reunion" on it, considering it is a verse about Dirty and how he misses him, and it's only like 4 bars, just like all the "Life Changes" verses.

this is a great idea

[zooruka]

After listening to this album RZA failed ...again.

Bwhahahahahahah

Rza after forever = Fail

RZA s (vision) producing is too much Motion picture background music. .

Rza' an idiot, who thinks every bit of music he makes has to sound like a tarantino film score.

Most tracks feel that way to me.

I agree

hey maybe you like his production style he has now, back then it was more underground.

It was more raw and actually sounded like rap.

He's talking about the nature of the beats..

Yes

OB4CL was put together like a movie, but the beats themselves were just standard Hip Hop style beats.

Nailed it

Yeah man , RZA changed his style for the worse .

Rza is wack now..... With the beats, with the rhymes any dj

The clan needs to be laced with tight production , lyrically theyll be inspired to spit raw shit.

I agree..... but Wu tang is over.

RZA just tries to hard sometimes and it comes across as corny. .

Rza is dead ! ....... R.I.P Rzarektah

[CharlesJones]

LOL@Zooruka dissing The RZA hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. His beats have been terrible after Wu Tang Forever but he had some decent beats on Iron Flag. Zooruka, did you respond to my topic about DJ Premier vs The RZA? I wanted to get your opinion on which producer you think is better. I chose DJ Premier.

[Poison Flowerz!]

cCATZ SERIOUSLY LIKE MIRACLE??!!!! FUR REAL FRIENDZ?11

[zooruka]

Zooruka, did you respond to my topic about DJ Premier vs The RZA? I wanted to get your opinion on which producer you think is better. I chose DJ Premier.

Premo is dope....... but I chose Rza, based on his early work CJ. Rza was mad unique compared to anything else out there at the time and even now.

[hotnikks]

Preachers Daughter aint as bad as people are making it to be. Plus Ghost killed it.

[hotnikks]

Gotta say Miracle is really on some Dinsey shit man I was sober first time I heard it and it wasnt fun.

[food for thought]

The only miracle about that track is how hard that shitty hook gets stuck in your head after scrambling to skip it in a hurry smh

[Sparrow Daene]

miracle isnt even disney. somehow, it's even worse than that. it's like some andrew lloyd webber schmaltz.

[JEM]

Rza beats garbage after Wu-Tang Forever??
















Cmon RZA!! You can do that for Afro Samurai but not your clan??? Fuck the hollywood real musician shit..make shit for the have nots again!

"If you forget where you come from, you aint gonna make it where you going"