Once Upon A Time In Shaolin...

[TheWuSepticTank]

Lol, this is incredible... Used them? for what? Why not open a thread to complain in the same way about The Cure, The Abbott & The Monk, Ragu, Crayons, Liquid Swords II... why such a tense thread about this particular record?

^ Well, because those albums were never made. This album is made and completed, it's real. Those albums are either on shelf with a bunch of other unreleased Wu shit, or not recorded at all. OUATIS is real, those albums aren't.

[TheWuSepticTank]

Here's what I'm trying to understand. Now let me first begin with saying that I don't even hold all this anger, disappointment, disrespect, however you wanna label it, against any of you. If you see the vid above, you'll hear me say that I totally understand the reactions from Wu fans and likely would've held the same grudge.

But what I'm trying to understand is the following. How can you justify this sense of entitlement to something we made and in the same time yell it's an email album. That simply does not go into one sentence together. You're dissing it from one end like you don't care about it anyway, then dissing us for not giving it to you like it's all that matters.

Look, it's as simple as this. Whomever gets to own this, can either keep it to him/herself, give it away for free or exhibit it in museums and galleries. He just can't commercialise it in any way. Why? Because then this work would've existed as an artwork for 10 months, and the minute its sold become a standard CD release, making everything we stand for with this idea no more than a plush marketing stunt instead of an actual statement with integrity.

Is that understandable in the slightest sense?

^ And I never dissed this album. I'm upset about not hearing it because I'm pretty damn sure it's dope. I peeped that beat session from years ago, and waited for whatever projects were gonna come from that, just to be trolled in the end. I always dug your production, I liked the Mental Chamberz albums, so I know the sound is official. I don't give a fuck about the whole "copy and paste" shit niggas keep constantly saying on here. I only care about the final product, which I believe has to be the best Clan work since Forever. Not having access to it is my only issue with this project.

[molisz]

Used them? for what?

I wrote that some folks probably feel that you used them in some way, word probably is the key here because im guessing about the reason.
Again original thread would answer your question better.

why such a tense thread about this particular record?

Who started this thread?

why do you continue to give a fuck about this album, what my raggedy ass says about it and what the fucks happens to it or doesn't happen to it? Do explain!

Why do you give a fuck what anyone here says about this album?

[josborne3680]

Well the reason for all the hate now is that u lied. Which I believe u even admitted to. Think u called it changing the game plan. I definitely remember stating my main concern when Ringz was dropping a guest list each week that this was too good to be true n we would never get this album. Ringz u even said this is not Ragu or the Cure because those albums basically were never recorded. U said this was real which it is. But u definitely said we would get this. Which is the problem. U said u put much time n cash into this for it to just fold. Obviously the cream has something to do with it. So look at it from my angle. Die hard since 93, tell my friends ghost is better than biggie, won't let my wife take down cuban Linx n liquid swords posters, defend 8d n abt, force myself to sit thru brick mansions and so on. Then an album that I am told I will hear from the creator of the album re-creating that 90s sh!t we all love is no longer gonna be heard by me, a real Wu head. Call me a Stan. That's fine. Then I think me or we have the right to be a little upset n pretty much type anything we want on this forum. No disrespect really in the end n peace.

[LoTec]

tha god of rhymes

[Cilvaringz]

^ Well, because those albums were never made. This album is made and completed, it's real. Those albums are either on shelf with a bunch of other unreleased Wu shit, or not recorded at all. OUATIS is real, those albums aren't.

Yes ok. But that still doesn't it make it less of a plastic snare, emailed verse, copy and paste, rza mimicking bullshit album by the raggedy cilvaringz.. Completed or not. So why still care?

[TheWuSepticTank]

Yes ok. But that still doesn't it make it less of a plastic snare, emailed verse, copy and paste, rza mimicking bullshit album by the raggedy cilvaringz.. Completed or not. So why still care?

^ I never said anything bad about your production. I never dissed this album (only the concept), never said the copy and paste comment. If you read my other comment underneath the one you replied to, you'd see what I mean. Shit, that fucking "Serpents" beat is one of my favorite instrumentals in recent memory, from one of those Mental Chamberz albums.

[RADIOACTIVE MAN]

why niggaz so mad over this shit..half of you cats were gonna download it anyways...how many of u were actually gonna go cop it?

from day one..this project has been an unorthodox ether..LOL

[RADIOACTIVE MAN]

^. waited for whatever projects were gonna come from that, just to be trolled in the end. .

trolled damn near a whole fan base....classic ether

[Cilvaringz]

^ I never said anything bad about your production. I never dissed this album (only the concept), never said the copy and paste comment. If you read my other comment underneath the one you replied to, you'd see what I mean. Shit, that fucking "Serpents" beat is one of my favorite instrumentals in recent memory, from one of those Mental Chamberz albums.

ok well then fair enough, cant knock you for being pissed off then. I would be as well. And thank you.

[Live YR]

Disappointed as hell not to hear it, man, but congrats Cilvaringz on the project none -the-less.
Peace.

[TheWuSepticTank]

ok well then fair enough, cant knock you for being pissed off then. I would be as well. And thank you.

^ You're welcome. I agree that it doesn't make sense to be pissed about this album, and then diss it at the same time. That's just some dumb shit, but a lot (maybe most) fans are upset for the legit reasons as well ... all the real reasons previously stated, numerous times.

[TheWuSepticTank]

from day one..this project has been an unorthodox ether..LOL

^ LOL This shit cracked me up, can't lie.

[Sir Artsdradamus]

Method Man on Secret Wu-Tang Release: 'F--k That Album'


Method Man is not amused with producer Cilvaringz's claim that the copyright for Wu-Tang Clan's single-copy album, The Wu: Once Upon a Time in Shaolin, would prevent its buyer from sharing and profiting on its content for 88 years.


"I'm tired of this shit and I know everybody else is tired of it, too," the Wu rapper, who was unaware of the legal stipulation, recently told XXL. "Fuck that album, if that's what they are doing...Give it to the people, if they want to hear the shit, let them have it. Give it away free. I don't give a fuck; that ain't making nobody rich or poor. Give the fucking music out. Stop playing with the public, man."

Other than the record's legal limitations, Method Man said he was fully on board with the release. "I'm like, 'Wow, this has never been done before,'" said the rapper, who is working on his own Methlab solo album. "I was cool with shit. But now, this is ridiculous. Eighty-eight years, really? If that shit is true, that shit is stupid."

Cilvaringz made the claim in an interview with Forbes in which he claimed, "After 88 years, the copyright, which includes public and commercial rights, automatically transfers to the owner of the work." Once the copyright period is up, it will then be up to the LP's owner whether or not to share the music.

The album could come out before 2103, though, if the buyer were to post it online for free. RZA told Forbes that he didn't think that was likely considering the amount of money someone would be putting up to own it.

The 31-track, six-years-in-the-making record, which RZA first mentioned last April, features appearances by all nine members of the rap crew (and Cher!). At the time, the rapper claimed to have received offers as high as $5 million for the release, which comes in a special hand-carved box. Despite those flat offers, the band is selling the release via the online auction house Paddle8. Earlier this week, RZA offered "the first, the last, the only public listening session" for the release in New York City. Paddle8 tells Rolling Stone that it has yet to decide when the auction will end.


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...album-20150304

[The Hound]

The ONLY issue I have with this is the marketing of this album is about "real Wu-Tang shit, taking it back to 36 chambers" "more Rae & ODB verses" for this one copy album which is cool you create music and do whatever the fuck you want with it, but RZA spit in the face of all of the fans releasing ABT, the "retail" album, the "fans, shut the fuck up here's some crappy Wu-Tang be thankful for getting anything" album.

How you not expect to catch heat over this when from who been supporting Wu for 15-20 years? Buying all of the records, merchandise, going to the shows when only half the members bother to show up anyway. RZA dissing the fans on this one.

The annoying thing about it is this BS about bringing art back to some esteemed level, this has nothing to do with a statement besides selling a 1 copy album for millions, just admit it. There's nothing wrong with chasing the money on this just stop with this holier than thou, saving music stuff.

And yeah, some people probably do feel used...or better still betrayed since you were building with people on here for years for YOUR album that people wanted to support and you go with this and delete all traces of the mega thread.