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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooch View Post
    Lol Jesus....you realize I read articles on the LewRockwell site that you suggested?

    Now I’ve never been to qanon but I’ve seen KTL, and libertarians have their own brand of “conspiracy” although I think it’s all just levels of skepticism of power centers from differing marginalized people, simply put.

    And I don’t know how to break this to you but a libertarian in ‘21 is under the right wing domestic terrorist umbrella, at least according to the CIA. This was espoused by John Brennan.
    I believe in 'conspiracies' and I think one of the worst things to happen to American culture is all of us accepting it as a dirty word. Nobody is going to have a nuclear arsenal, corporate crime all over the global and 14+ trillion dollars to manage and let this shit run on auto-pilot or through carnival contests like elections and 'party politics'. I'm literally here making conspiracies with my wife to make sure the bills are paid at the end of the month and somehow the US political and corporate structure is being decided day by day.

    People are cooperating less with the traditional levers of control so now they're making new ones that look more draconian but aren't really different from what was there before. It's a pentagon state and has been for decades but it's more obvious to poor white ppl now because they're slow and no longer necessary in the overt and disproportionate contribute they gave in making sure this becomes our reality. People will literally drive around with police propaganda tattoo'd to their skin complaining about a police state. Fucc em.
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    Honestly I thought Trump was the lesser of two evils because he was the least powerful of the two in terms of coalitions and financial support: just look at the donor lists it tells you everything.
    But ideologically they essentially do the same shit. Trump is farther left than Bill Clinton was.
    They wanted their proxy war in Syria though and the Donald was dragging his feet on that one.

    As far as Liz Cheney she’s just another never trumper neocon who has revived her career by linking up with the Dems to preserve the ruling class establishment.
    A bunch of disgraced Bush era people make up this group.

    Affluent suburbanites won the election for Biden. Back in the day there were Reagan Democrats now we got Biden Republicans.

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    the bush era criminal image laundering is next level pathetic. Trump was making them uncomfortable because he acts poor. Suburbs are the source of this shit. Dem or republican, they'll always go for the person that makes the fuckery they benefit from look calm and under control. Suburban culture is totalitarian at it's core and the people the live in suburbs can't process government beyond something that keeps superficial platitudes alive being that it's the core of their life. No expense spared, just don't be loud about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSA View Post
    the bush era criminal image laundering is next level pathetic. Trump was making them uncomfortable because he acts poor. Suburbs are the source of this shit. Dem or republican, they'll always go for the person that makes the fuckery they benefit from look calm and under control. Suburban culture is totalitarian at it's core and the people the live in suburbs can't process government beyond something that keeps superficial platitudes alive being that it's the core of their life. No expense spared, just don't be loud about it.
    Rural areas, too. Social media and the media tried to destroy Trump's image and it didn't work. I say the man has a good chance in 2024 unless Republicans obtain a backbone by walking away from him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    Rural areas, too. Social media and the media tried to destroy Trump's image and it didn't work. I say the man has a good chance in 2024 unless Republicans obtain a backbone by walking away from him.
    Republican would be smart to embrace the working class and labor because the Dems abandoned it.

    Just like the Labour Party did in Britain and they’ve taken major losses recently.

    This far left radical ideology is not a winning strategy anywhere besides affluent( and I stress AFFLUENT) suburbs who need to use it for something or some small cosmopolitan circles in urban centers and college towns.

    What’s happening in Britian is telling and it will happen here. It already did with Trumps first election but it will get more pronounced the more these idiots push extremist ideologies only a small group actually embraces.

    I think it’s beneficial for Republicans to rid themselves of the Cheney/Bush war hawk cronies and to get back to more classical liberalism that is at the core of our American identity and is seen as a relic by this new radical left, thus making it the actual “conservative” position in 2021.

    So yea kick Cheney out. I’d rather see that than see a co-opted cuck of a politician a la what happened to Bernie Sanders.

    But essentially they’re all slimeball it’s just which one is less of a threat to you and how you perceive the future and that’s who you go with. Some people support a party blindly, others don’t vote at all.

    Who am I to say? Vote how you want.
    Last edited by Dooch; 05-08-2021 at 02:43 PM.

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    Some Progressive policies are popular with the masses and I wouldn't dismiss it as a losing strategy. Universal health care, legalize marijuana,raising minimum wage higher corporate tax rates, student loan debt forgiveness. I am not on board with lmost of it, but polls indicate thier ideology has an appeal, especially all the green new deal BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b-dolo View Post
    especially all the green new deal BS.
    This will kill jobs. Oil and gas, mining, coal, and industrial should remain for the time being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    This will kill jobs. Oil and gas, mining, coal, and industrial should remain for the time being.
    Agree. I am for a greener earth and I'm not some climate change denier. We don't need massive government involvement though.

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    The thing about progressives is they are more concerned with critical race theory, LGBTQ etc, Identity politics and green new deal BS then they are with actual labor and jobs. They talk a big game on Twitter but are easily bought off.

    They’re also the people behind all this madness and everyone understands that and nobody trusts them with power.

    Progressive leftist politics and parties have performed at all time lows all across Western Europe and just recently took massive losses in the UK.

    It’s trending downward and we are always late to the party.

    Plus they have this dumbass mentality than anything right Id them is “fascism”. It’s idiotic.

    I personally don’t think modern leftism or progressivism gives two shits about anything they say they do, it doesn’t reperesent who it claims to and the voting trends show that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooch View Post
    The thing about progressives is they are more concerned with critical race theory, LGBTQ etc, Identity politics and green new deal BS then they are with actual labor and jobs. They talk a big game on Twitter but are easily bought off.

    They’re also the people behind all this madness and everyone understands that and nobody trusts them with power.

    Progressive leftist politics and parties have performed at all time lows all across Western Europe and just recently took massive losses in the UK.

    It’s trending downward and we are always late to the party.

    Plus they have this dumbass mentality than anything right Id them is “fascism”. It’s idiotic.

    I personally don’t think modern leftism or progressivism gives two shits about anything they say they do, it doesn’t reperesent who it claims to and the voting trends show that.
    Both parties have been over ran by nut jobs. The right has capital rioting, Q anon, anti-vaxxers. The left has BLM/antifa, non gender, socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-dolo View Post
    Both parties have been over ran by nut jobs. The right has capital rioting, Q anon, anti-vaxxers. The left has BLM/antifa, non gender, socialist.
    Wont debate you on that one. I enjoy the Lew Rockwell site. It’s a different perspective. But I’m probably on some NSA list now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooch View Post
    Wont debate you on that one. I enjoy the Lew Rockwell site. It’s a different perspective. But I’m probably on some NSA list now.
    It is a more right leaning libertarian perspective. Nothing too radical, you're proably safe. Anything to get more people to be less devoted to R' and D's is a win.

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    If the feds have OUATIS the NSA's bound to have Dooch on their radar
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    My name ends in a vowel, the FBI already has the subpoena ready to go.

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    Hit with that RICO charge.
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