Q-time with Cilvaringz (non OUATIS version)

**MikeAll** · 09-13-2017, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Pattch82

...Those old bootlegs with the original versions are dope as fuck!!

Stuff like Epic of Bitter Triumph, Tongue Fu, Ninja Stars, Gold Bell Cover Day, The Oldest Chamber. I'd love proper CDQ versions of these joints!

WORD! "Epic of Bitter Triumph" is an epic how I got on song.
"Tongue Fu" is still my FAV (danger chamber/battle) Cilvaringz track. Many KO punchlines and that 4th beat is bonkers!!

**ta12113** · 09-13-2017, 05:08 PM

https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Fire-Res...ords=holy+fire

http://www.holyfire.org/eng/

Basically, the Holy Fire/Light is a miracle that occurs the Saturday before Easter in the Orthodox calendar. It occurs every year. The Patriarch of Jerusalem goes down into the chamber where the empty tomb of Jesus is, says a few prayers, and then after an undetermined period of time the Holy Fire appears and lights the candles. Then it spreads throughout the Church, lighting the candles of pilgrims by itself, without the touching of candles. They say that it doesn't burn for the first 20-30 minutes. A Russian scientist deduced that based upon his testing in 2009 (I think) that it has similar properties to plasma (not saying that it is plasma, just that it shares some properties). Some people have testified that they have seen the light descending in the Church (little children), while the Patriarch who is saying the prayers has testified that he has not seen the light descending. Some people have also reported that the Holy Fire changes them when they witness it...a spiritual change. This has been documented for over 1600 years, and has been purported to occur ever since the resurrection of Christ. But it only occurs when the Patriarch for the Orthodox Church says the prayers, not anybody else. Others have tried, and failed. This was a recognized miracle by the Roman Church until about 1000 years ago, when for various reasons they decided to un-recognize it. It has been witnessed by people of all faiths, including Muslims.

This first link is a really good historical overview that gives a detailed accounting of 70 historical testimonies (from priests, laymen, Muslims, Catholics, etc.) spanning over 1500 years. I found a good used copy after some light research.

The second link is a good introduction available on the internet.

In case you are unaware, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre/Resurrection is located across from the Mosque of Omar (Dome of the Rock).

**Cilvaringz** · 09-13-2017, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by num2son

How's your relationship with Bronze?

And did you really give him the name Bronze Nazareth?

I thought we were good, but apparantly he's been sharing some issues he has with me with others that I have come to know about. Haven't spoken to him in a while. Yes I gave him that name. Since he came on the Wu-Tang scene through me I used the third metal element in line as the first name. In example.. Goldenarms, Cilvaringz, Bronze Nazareth. Nazareth stems from his last name (Justin) Cross.

**Cilvaringz** · 09-13-2017, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Pattch82

I got a few questions...

Do you ever wish that you had released your debut album back in 2001 or 2003 or when it was originally supposed to drop? Those old bootlegs with the original versions are dope as fuck!!

Do you plan on releasing the original versions of these tracks, even digitally? Stuff like Epic of Bitter Triumph, Tongue Fu, Ninja Stars, Gold Bell Cover Day, The Oldest Chamber. I'd love proper CDQ versions of these joints!

How do you feel about the Priest track Inner G, using the same 4th Disciple beat as your Energy track with B9. Did 4th just reuse the beat because you didn't put it out? Which one do you think is best?

What happened to the original In The Name of Allah track, with the 4th Disciple beat? Did it get used for anything else? The snippet with Masta Killa's verse and you on the hook is dope as hell!!

Is the Plum Blossom track on OUATIS...? Did you ever finish that track or did you scrap it when Shabazz leaked the unfinished version?

Peace!

Do you ever wish that you had released your debut album back in 2001 or 2003 or when it was originally supposed to drop? Those old bootlegs with the original versions are dope as fuck!!
THANKS DUDE! BUT NO. I WAS SERIOUSLY TOO WANNA BE'ISH AT THAT TIME WITH THE LYRICS USING SWORDS, DARTS AND WHATNOT AS COOL WORDS TO SAY RATHER THAN ACTUALLY USING THE ABILITY TO SAY SOMETHING. LACK OF REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE ALSO PLAYED A PART. I WAS YOUNG, LIVING A MIDDLE CLASS LIFE IN TILBURG. THE 2007 REFELECTED MORE INTERESTING THINGS I THINK.

Do you plan on releasing the original versions of these tracks, even digitally? Stuff like Epic of Bitter Triumph, Tongue Fu, Ninja Stars, Gold Bell Cover Day, The Oldest Chamber. I'd love proper CDQ versions of these joints!
NAH. BUT I THINK THEY'RE KINDA OUT THERE FLOATING.

How do you feel about the Priest track Inner G, using the same 4th Disciple beat as your Energy track with B9. Did 4th just reuse the beat because you didn't put it out? Which one do you think is best?
I CAN'T JUDGE 4TH'S THINKING. I HAVE ASSUMPTIONS, BUT THAT'S ALL THEY ARE, ASSUMPTIONS. I DO THINK OUR VERSION WAS BETTER, ME, BERETTA 9, 4TH AND BRONZE. 4TH'S A KILLER WITH THE BEATS MAN. SHIT I HEARD DURING MY SESSIONS IN STEUBENVILLE WERE UNREAL.

What happened to the original In The Name of Allah track, with the 4th Disciple beat? Did it get used for anything else? The snippet with Masta Killa's verse and you on the hook is dope as hell!!
WASNT USED FOR ANYTHING NO. MORE AS A REFERENCE. BUT 4TH KILLED THAT ONE AS WELL.

Is the Plum Blossom track on OUATIS...? Did you ever finish that track or did you scrap it when Shabazz leaked the unfinished version?
PLUM BLOSSOM IS NOT ON OUATIS AND NEVER RELEASED. THAT WAS A MOONGOD BEAT AND WE RECORDED IT IN GERMANY. THAT'S RZA, BERETTA 9, SHABAZZ AND PRIEST I THINK.

On a side note, yall boy Shkreli just been sent to jail. The OUATIS saga continues I guess. Also, for all my haters, there's supposed to be an article coming out on me which is negative, so yall can chew on that one and get some temporary gratification from it again. And then life will move on again...

Love to all !

**Cilvaringz** · 09-13-2017, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by MikeAll

WORD! "Epic of Bitter Triumph" is an epic how I got on song.
"Tongue Fu" is still my FAV (danger chamber/battle) Cilvaringz track. Many KO punchlines and that 4th beat is bonkers!!

Thank you homie

**Cilvaringz** · 09-13-2017, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by ta12113

https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Fire-Res...ords=holy+fire

http://www.holyfire.org/eng/

Basically, the Holy Fire/Light is a miracle that occurs the Saturday before Easter in the Orthodox calendar. It occurs every year. The Patriarch of Jerusalem goes down into the chamber where the empty tomb of Jesus is, says a few prayers, and then after an undetermined period of time the Holy Fire appears and lights the candles. Then it spreads throughout the Church, lighting the candles of pilgrims by itself, without the touching of candles. They say that it doesn't burn for the first 20-30 minutes. A Russian scientist deduced that based upon his testing in 2009 (I think) that it has similar properties to plasma (not saying that it is plasma, just that it shares some properties). Some people have testified that they have seen the light descending in the Church (little children), while the Patriarch who is saying the prayers has testified that he has not seen the light descending. Some people have also reported that the Holy Fire changes them when they witness it...a spiritual change. This has been documented for over 1600 years, and has been purported to occur ever since the resurrection of Christ. But it only occurs when the Patriarch for the Orthodox Church says the prayers, not anybody else. Others have tried, and failed. This was a recognized miracle by the Roman Church until about 1000 years ago, when for various reasons they decided to un-recognize it. It has been witnessed by people of all faiths, including Muslims.

This first link is a really good historical overview that gives a detailed accounting of 70 historical testimonies (from priests, laymen, Muslims, Catholics, etc.) spanning over 1500 years. I found a good used copy after some light research.

The second link is a good introduction available on the internet.

In case you are unaware, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre/Resurrection is located across from the Mosque of Omar (Dome of the Rock).

The prophets were really something man. Jesus (pbuh) was amazing.

**ta12113** · 09-13-2017, 08:11 PM

Yes Jesus was amazing. And it is equally amazing that this miracle occurs only for Him, and for no other prophets, and that it occurs the day before his resurrection.

**Cilvaringz** · 09-13-2017, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by ta12113

Yes Jesus was amazing. And it is equally amazing that this miracle occurs only for Him, and for no other prophets, and that it occurs the day before his resurrection.

Are you implying that Jesus' prophethood is more supreme to other prophethoods?