Everything that came out last year from my recollection was shit. Anything to look forward to?
will 2018 be (another) shit year in hip haap?
Everything that came out last year from my recollection was shit. Anything to look forward to?
As far as mainstream rap then yes, this year will be shit. I liked quite a few underground albums last year. The god fahim and his 1000 lp’s has plenty of dope shit. Grizelda put out some good stuff. The static selectah 8 album was pretty good. The mainstream artists on that ruined good tracks, but there were really dope songs from Raekwon, Rtj, Sean p...etc
yeah we got a ton of dope shit in 2017, westside and conway's 2017 catalog alone will be getting replay for several months. And I really don't even check out much new hip hop.
don't expect much from mainstream as usual though, but idk, the cycle of completely dumbed down drug addict music has to take a turn at some point I have to assume
Not until the artists and ADHD fanbase collectively run out of drugz, get knocked for possession with intent and trafficking, or take a Sluttboi L (OD.)Originally Posted by Mumm Ra
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any artform is going to be dependent on what technology it's being distributed on. short cohesive albums in the tape area, shift towards singles in the CD era, shift towards stand alone songs in the download era, and now a shift towards comments and social activity in the streaming era. Each will come with it's pluses and minuses, but the particular minuses of this era are more dangerous to the continuity of the genre as a whole. This is segmented followings. Everyone's locked more into a bubble than before and arts have reached a level where they're incomparable to each other. For the most part hip hop is single measure culture, where everyone interacts and competes at a level you don't see anywhere else and this is what keeps it going.
the culture unites generations and races. @Pat Bateman, it's a pretty important part of the youth social fabric in the US. Like, do or die important, and more than just a listening experience. If it's purely listening than it's subjective, but there's an objective reality to the role the genre/culture plays here and idk if it's the same in Australia. It's helped educate a lot of people and break down barriers more than anything else I can think of other than the law. As the listener bases become more segmented, and the genre less respectable as a whole, it's going to leave a very big gulf here culturally. Worldwide too. Forget about respectable, these guys literally don't make songs anymore as it's a burden on their social media behavior.
We can look at it from an opportunity perspective. Boonk throwing milkshakes and people will get a lot of hits on social media and a lot of comments and that is all a form of currency and reward, but it's not going to create the opportunity for 1000s of people that 36 Chambers being a solid body of work did or open people up to a new way of thinking or perspective. Tekashi is going to get a lot of press for having a pedophilic rape charge, and having rainbow colored hair, that's not going to put 1000s of people to work the way The Chronic being a solid body of work did.
Hip hop has always been full of stupidity, but the rapper's (former) ability to articulate the stupidity artistically and get people to understand it has done a lot of good for a lot of people. So when you have a situation where younger people opt to listen to rappers for 30-20 years ago, there's a problem. It's also fucking with my personal enjoyment of music and I have the right to complain because I've spent money on this shit.
TSA what music do you listen to now that hip hop sucks?
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nothing lol. that's the worst part. I recently tried to get into MF Doom but everything I heard was ass. Any suggestions?
The Dogg Pound's first album was my most recent pleasant discovery. Always thought Kurupt was really underrated.
well thats disappointing...thats my fav artist outside of Wu-Tang and a huge catalogI recently tried to get into MF Doom but everything I heard was ass.
Vaudeville Villain is a top 5 hip hop album all time for me, Madvillain's dope, MM Food, ect
ill check out vaudeville villian. I know a lot of ppl like him on here and I like Angels with Ghost. thank man
I like some of the mumbly/R&B shit thats coming out now, but I get how far removed it is from the Hip Hop we all grew up with, its generally not very lyrical and people are singing on slow bpms.
I liked some regular Hip Hop shit last year but there wasn't anything amazing to me. I think the genre is kind of transitioning into being old and irrelevant the way rock music is now. A study said the average age when people shut off from new music is 34, I feel like I'm approaching that mentally as well as literally tbh.
New Evidence album finaly dropin this month, the most awaited album for me.
And looking for new cypress hill record this year.
@ShaDynasty. Yeah the shit's getting extra played out, though there's really nothing there to replace it. Maybe we'll have a generation of kids that really aren't into music? Because even the mumbly ppl get 50% of their buzz from people saying their shit. Young people don't even listen to them. It's like 50% hate, 30% fans 20% people that aren't fans but are trying to look relevant. Unless it's their instagram antics than yeah, they're fucking crackin.
There's always been 'the bullshit' in rap though. Except now the non-bullshit is stale and lame too. It's becoming more about having a strange look (like rock n roll) and doing stupid shit on social media than actually making music.
There's a 'buzzing' rapper named Boonk that has like 2 actual songs and 99% of his buzz is him being stupid to ppl on live stream.
Far As doom goes, madvilliany is the last hip hop album I've heard that I consider a classic. I really dig venemous villian but u prob wouldn't (tsa). Dude's not a great mc. He put out 3 or 4 albums one year n it's clear a lot of lyrics r straight rubbish just entirely driven by rhyme schemes (I did a thread about it here once where nobody agreed n got upset n I even got neg rep n shit, people telling me he was a great lyricist. Was Top notch lolz). But he made some cool music. People saying that born for this or whatever that throwaway crap was called was like album of the year or something was prob the best confirmation I ever had that hip hop had well n truly gone to shit. That n fishscale.
Fuck I'm being a negative cunt.
Best doom shit was when he threw mf Grimm a bunch of beats for the special herbs n spices tape. Straight raw no frills gutter shit, ya heard?
yeah, i didn't think he was a great rapper either. horrible delivery, weak lyrics. He's also unbelievably uncool. I just thought I was listening to his 'A Better Tomorrow' and chalked it up to not knowing where to start. Everyone that fucks with wutang fucks with him so yeah. I like his beats a lot. My first intro to his music was Angels with Ghost which I like so i'm looking for more stuff like that or better.
17 was a tremendous year for real hip hop music my brother
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