Fuck anyone who uses a ghost writer. I have no thyme for that shit. Retire.
Fuck anyone who uses a ghost writer. I have no thyme for that shit. Retire.
Originally Posted by noel411
Wigs all the way on this... dude even shouted out himself on this joint ! his resume/fearues since like 2004 is like 90% on GFK projects. i even put these lyrics next to one of Wigs verse from a Othorized Fam track and the writing and even syllable counts per sentance ( on avg. 8 to 9 ) are very similar ( this could be a coincidence but still interesting ). I assume that GFK wrote most of if not all his verses on Ironman but from Supreme Clientele and on i think he had writers. peace.
"Lyrics
Simple minds get blown, shattered into pieces
My thesis is thick like the Book of Eli
We live we die, we put 'em in the sky
Free your mind as a slave like the Fourth of July
This a sandstorm created from original thought
I bust boundaries son, you just do what you're taught
My vocab is powerful, spit shit subliminal
Slang therapist, my whole style is criminal
Bugged like Bob Digital, fly visual
Mind body and soul, I'm a strong individual
Come through in the final hour, with gun showers
Stand the fuck up like Flav to fight the power
I'm an activist, socialist, deadly ass poetrist
Supreme Clientele, I'm a goddamn vocalist
My thoughts are so heavy I could change a generation
The x-factor, we puttin' holes through inflation
If you hit the rock bottom of the asphalt, that's likely your ass fault
My lines are cocaine, the flow is bath salts
I'm a for-sure Don, no one in your circle can box me
That's like an oxymoron
I flirt with building your empire
Gotta shake the snake in the grass and spark sharks to swim by ya
Cuz every meek head that speak street cred ainÂ’t bangin heat lead
And probably cut like sweet bread wetting their sheets spread
So nigga holla, I coin phrases to trigger dollars
Its butterfly like the shirts made with bigger collars
Women thank the scholar, the broad stealer
Who laying them face down and ass up like a card dealer
The time ceases, I keep a bed with dime pieces
As I palm another phenomenon rhyme thesis
Because on the contrary,
I get it popping like Dom Perignon beyond Tom, Harry and Dick
You can declare me as sick
Highly contagious
Bathsalt flows leaving bodies all on stages
Locked behind cages, Don of all ages
Its Ghostface nigga never plead in the cases
But I plead the fifth, four-fifth by the belt buckle
Crack stone-faced niggas with the steel of a knuckle
Go ahead and chuckle, I have uncle murder your goons
Hoes and balloons, ODing on flights from Colombia
Pull your trunk through your neck when the cartel's done with you
Supreme talk boss, verbal holocaust I'm a thriller
Have you jumping out, they sleep, Wigs hand me a Miller
Sick the dogs sitting in their shoes
My iron monkies spit banana clips with thick traps like Terry Crews
Silverbacks with high tracks, fuckin relax
Got a duffle bag full of guns son, dipped in black
My culture rises in attack just like a vulture
Ghostface the next Escobar or Sosa"
Wigs verse off of "Its the Unit"
''[Wigs]
I'm in the 0-5 Benz, with the suicide doors
Lazy eye lights, and the apple suede floors
Mossberg jacket, Carmine's, number six
My guns out the windows, reload it like The Matrix
I'm tryin' take this back to '86
Where the chains are hollow, and silly rabbits had 'tricks'
We all pose like jail flicks (word)
And them nicks was like twenties
We ain't rock Christ heads, we had Playboy bunnies
And Jordans to, I rocked ones in '85
I'mma rap, but I rhyme, just to stay alive
No jive, we fam, like the Jackson 5
Twisting the Gerder, one leg on the wheel as I ride
No low profile, I need meat on the wheels
And the law gonna help me get a mil for reals
Big business, billion dollar funds for deals
All protein, son, I need steak for meals
Keep your scampi, pa..''
GFK verse off of "Daytona 500" ( here GFK has syllable counts on avg. of 9 to 10 and on some sentences 11 )
''[Verse 2: Ghostface Killah]
Mercury raps is roughed then God just shown like taps
Red and white Wally's that match, bend my baseball hat
Doing forever shit like pissing out the window on turnpikes
Robbing niggas for leathers, high swiping on dirt bikes
Voice be mellow like Vaughn Harper, Radio Barber
Murder sleep away camp, the fly lady champ
The arsonist, who burn with his pen regardless
Slaying all these earthlings and fake foreigners
In the Phillipines, pick herbal beans, bubbling strings
Biochemical cream, we burn kerosene
The conviction of my tape is rape, wicked like Nixon
Blond heads, inscriptions with three sixes in
Kiss the pyramid experiment with high explosive
I slapbox with Jesus, lick shots at Joseph
Zoom in like binoculars, the rap blacksmith
Money's Rolex, was rockless, Chef ragtop is spotless
I'm Iron Man no die-cast metal, I'm steel-alloy
True identity hidden inside secret tabloids
Breathe oxygen, both sides of my jaw carry oxes
The track hit like the bangers, in hundred watt boxes
Yo jostling these cats while Little J be deli-ing
Sip Irish Moss out of Widelians''
^^^^Now hold up. You're going a bit too far. I believe Ghost has used writers/getting help with bars starting with the Fishscale era. Ironman-Pretty Tony is ALL Ghost. Perb even admitted he lied about that when Shyheim exposed him for being on the pedo list. Ghost himself said he had to stop smoking after Pretty Tony because it took him too long to write rhymes. It started to effect his writing.
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I don't even know what to say to people who think GFK had writers on Supreme Clientele. It's literally inconceivable for that to be true.
I can see arguments for later albums, but I also personally think Bulletproof Wallets and Pretty Tony was all Ghost too
Maybe some help on Fishscale, but a lot of those tracks only Ghost could make (Underwater, Alex Stolen Script, Whip With a Strap, ect ect)
Where did the ghost having Ghost writers stuff actually come from? I've seen it a lot on here in the last year or so, but maybe cunts were talking about it before n I just wasn't browsing. I don't remember.
It seems to b people just saying he has Ghost writers cos he sounds like trife or Wigs, but that shit could just as well b Ghost being influenced by them after working with them. That shit can and does happen.
I'm not trying to defend him. Cunts here who know me would know I def wouldn't do that. Just wondering if there's a stronger basis for the ghost writer accusations or what?
the supreme clientele rumors came directly from Superb claiming he wrote the entire SC album (lol) and everybody seemed to believe the word of a crackhead pedophile that never spit a verse as dope as ghost in the first place, then later admitted to lying
the later albums I think it just spawned from the fact Ghost's lyrics dropped off so drastically from his early albums to the point he barely sounds the same. I mean it could just be him getting older and influenced by his peers at the time, who knows
Yeah I remember the shit with lord superb. That was only ever Pure lolz for anybody with half a mind. More about the later shit. The whole trife/Wigs shit. I kinda lost interest after supreme clientele, so I've never paid much attention to his lyrics since then. As a casual listener I would've never contemplated any Ghost writing stuff going on. But I haven't heard much of his more recent stuff.
yeah, he went from one of the most creative MCs literally of all time to another generic street-thug type rapper with no real creativity and awful similes/ metaphors. It's pretty disappointing but he still has his moments.
interesting interview. Trife Diesel '' i done a little bit of ghostwriting nah what im saying... im a writer .... im a writer at the same time if the money right" ... " as long as the checks is right i ghostwrite for anybody "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ouxAXVhKXY
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