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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaDynasty View Post
    You must be interested to even write this. He's more interesting than anything else in this subforum otherwise you'd post about something else.

    Some of what you said is inaccurate, like he can still make beats solo, and even on the collaborative stuff you have to give him credit because its stuff that wouldn't exist otherwise. Its whole fully produced songs not just beats that have a sound that sounds like Kanye and not like any of the producers involved.

    I'm surprised you think he sounds like Pharrell in any way. Listen to the recent Tyler LP if you want to hear what somebody trying to make beats like The Neptunes and RZA sounds like.

    The Neptunes have always been Soul-Jazz oriented, very smooth chords, often major key and synth driven which is nothing like what Kanye does. I don't see it, RZA is a better comparison just because of him switching up his production style often but keeping that gritty soul influence in the mix. Kanye was actively competing with guys like Bink and Just Blaze back when he broke through so they might be an even more direct influence.

    he's literally a circus, of course he's interesting. 2 girls and a cup is interesting, I'm not going to pretend it needs an oscar. Kanye wants to be seen as what Pharrel actually is. Both are some weirdos, but I'm over people acting like Kanye is that.

    Sound wise Kanye is a more boring mix of ppl so that's not what I mean. He does Timbaland, Rza, and Dilla and he's unique for throwing in churchy sounds often. When I say pharrel i mean persona and achievement.

    They both produced Pusha T. There's no comparison
    Swiss Beats (who I don't even like) recently produced for Nas the way Kanye did. No comparison
    He's really mediocre at producing and rapping, but a-1 at publicity stunts.

    I think the last interesting Kanye beat I heard was that I got to shine shit with T pain.
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    His musics not boring though, its usually varied, epic etc. I think thats why it gets so much hype - if he'd made a bunch of albums like College Dropout nobody would give a shit by now. Kanye and his writers make relatable songs about universal human emotions with expansive production. People like Drake, Nas, Jay-Z are just not relatable like that, they want to maintain an image so very little slips through their rhymes that isn't calculated to make them look like they have no weaknesses. Plus those guys don't have the musical ambition - Drake built a career and subgenre basically out of copying 808s & Heartbreak and he hasn't moved on in 10 years.

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    "I just dated this model, and she just bleached her asshole" you relate you that? LOL
    relate-able? Dude made 4 albums about Chanel.

    lol I don't want to quiz you or anything but I can't imagine you have an arsenal of relate-able lyrics, or even live style and interest points that connect you to Kanye West lol. Or anyone outside of drama and fashion school kids that are also heterosexual. relate-able is a weird word to take from Jay-z (who isn't relate-able) and give to Kanye (who is an even more outlandish ode to what makes Jay-Z alien to a wider audience.)

    What has Kanye west don't ambitiously with his music? Other than market himself as musically ambitious? And Kanye built a career copying Supreme Clientele until getting ghost-producers, so I don't see what you're saying.

    Again, we can go to the songs Kanye produced for Nas and the ones Pete Rock produced for Nas and ask ourselves how much deliberately running into stop signs and calling paparazzi to come to your house at night then 'lashing out on them' has tricked people into thinking your music is 'ambitious'.

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    Worst, he'll now start rapping his boring trash ass lyrics over the good (kid cudi)Kanye West beat LOL. I can name more songs Kanye's presence ruins than contributes to.

    I have to press next extra fast before he comes on talking about 'I just got me a my own pool, and i'm gon gon take a swim', which sucks cause I like the song


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    bruv.

    im getting hit with lawsuits i c3po's like star wars.

    i dislike that song, like Kanyes verse. the bit about his home gym home pool and home schooling his daughter im into because i dont like public education.

    and the bleaching assholes part is funny, not really realistic in my realm because every bitch ive fucked/ate out her ass could use an anal bleaching. lolz. but i see where he is coming from.

    "i hit the jamacian seat at the bar take a seat, i ordered you jerk she said you are what you eat, you see i always loved your sense of humor, but tonight you should have seen how quiet the room was, the, lyor cohen or dior homme thats dior homme not dior hommie"

    i easily relate to that. especially purposely mispronouncing things which hes been doing ever since All Falls Down on CD.

    'you tried to play nice everybody just took advantage, you left your fridge open somebody just took a sandwich"

    i could go on lyrics wise, but him also supporting Trump i related to, as well as saying slavery was a choice, thought it was more funny but he did have a point during that interview. also during the interview with sway him saying that he is bigger than disney google and nike was great because i aspire to be the greatest at everything thing i do.

    tsa your blind to not see that Kanye is that fucking dude. and you aint got to like him just know.

    rza could make a beat for nas or any emcee and it would suit them, giving it a similar sound that the artist can work with. thats the mark of a good producer. Swiss Beats is a good producer, Kanye is a good producer, RZA is a good producer.

    idk what your trying to get at with that statement.

    and yo, Supreme Clientelle is one of my top 5 hip hop albums of all time i do not see how Kanye has ever tried to replicate that. ever. he could never, that is not his style at all.

    lmfao about the new Tyler album sounding like Neptunes and RZA. thats true though, i gave up on that dude sooooo long ago. even on bastard, beats were so RZA like coupled with early eminem shock value lyrics. i realized i only liked the guy cause i was 15 years old. his music holds no value to me at all even though he has done something different he has not resonated with me like Kanye has and how Kanye still does.
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    I wonder how much of the hate against Kanye started when he put the Red Hat on? He seemed to get some of his ideas from Candace Owens who I adore.


    Haters gonna hate.


    I've never been a huge Kanye fan but realized he had talent and he twerked the ASR-10 which is my favorite sampler. I actually like the direction he's going with his career. A career path that ends with dedicating your artwork to GOD and love of Christ is a good path. Hopefully it's not just another mainstream artist trying to cash in on a Christian audience like Snoop Dogg's phony album. I don't want it to become a gimmick.


    I think it's cool he tried to bring God to those guys in that prison. I like that Kanye thinks outside the box.


    I think Hip Hop Gospel is the best sub-genre of Hip Hop. Most slept on. Best underground songs if you search for them. https://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/sh...tian-Rap-Music



    "Most of all we are at war with ourselves"
    "God show me the way because the devil is trying to break me down"

    And I love the vocal sample on Follow God

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    I wonder how much of the hate against Kanye started when he put the Red Hat on? He seemed to get some of his ideas from Candace Owens who I adore.


    Haters gonna hate.


    I've never been a huge Kanye fan but realized he had talent and he twerked the ASR-10 which is my favorite sampler. I actually like the direction he's going with his career. A career path that ends with dedicating your artwork to GOD and love of Christ is a good path. Hopefully it's not just another mainstream artist trying to cash in on a Christian audience like Snoop Dogg's phony album. I don't want it to become a gimmick.


    I think it's cool he tried to bring God to those guys in that prison. I like that Kanye thinks outside the box.


    I think Hip Hop Gospel is the best sub-genre of Hip Hop. Most slept on. Best underground songs if you search for them. https://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/sh...tian-Rap-Music



    "Most of all we are at war with ourselves"
    "God show me the way because the devil is trying to break me down"

    And I love the vocal sample on Follow God
    His support of Trump doesn’t gain him points in my eyes, but it has nothing to do with how I view him as an artist.

    Antics aside, I’ve always felt Kanye was overrated. He gets put into a category that he simply does not belong, in to my eyes. There are people that literally say he’s the greatest of all time and he’s not even close to that.

    He’s a good beat maker. I can dig his production. But he’s a horrible rapper and an even worse singer. He ruins every track his on with his corny lines and annoying voice.

    I just feel Kanye is very over praised.

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    supporting the best president that the US has had in a while is a negative thing to you? lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by brock View Post
    supporting the best president that the US has had in a while
    Really ?

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    Kanye is a B grade rapper (B standing for buffoon).

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    lol

    what did yall expect?

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    I agree puerto rock.

    RZA Speaks on Kanye West's Work Ethic...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crzHgL-gW_4

    After working with Kanye West on his most recent solo album My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, well-respected artist and Wu-Tang member RZA sat down with the Red Bull Music Academy to shed some insight into Kanye's day-to-day process while recording. From being there first hand, as the Grammy Award-winner rigorously worked with his team in a variety of facets, watch and listen as the renowned emcee/producer offers high praise regarding one of the most talented and hardest working artists in music.

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