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    Quote Originally Posted by b-dolo View Post
    Australia elected officals are probably intelligent and competent.

    Ahahahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hound View Post
    You are seriously saying that his masterful use of twitter didn’t aid in him winning the most unexpected presidency ever? The only thing more astonishing than Trump getting up was Brexit. Everything Trump tweeted was not only read by 50m followers (at the time, 88m when he was banned) but then all the people that didn’t follow but who followed people that followed oh and not only that but it was broadcast and printed in every media across the USA and the western world.

    Trump does not win the election without social media.
    Masterful?
    PRESIDENTAL HARASSMENT isn't really Machiavellian. Trump ran against the most unpopular figure in US politics, she beat him numerically but not by enough votes to dislodge him in the electoral college because smaller (republican) states have more influence in that system. Hillary lost the election more than Trump won because large swathes of the democratic party stayed home and hated her more than they hated trump. Of course social played a part in everyone's campaign but at the same time Joe Biden literally suspended his online campaigning and still won.

    The truth is millennials overhype the internet. It's just a bunch of people trying to be distracted from real life. Biden won the primaries by going to churches because church ppl actually vote. They kept him off the internet because he has the dementia, rapes and will likely drop an N-bomb by June. The people that use it the most don't vote (especially twitter people). It is influential, and it's obviously a big deal but the issue is when people start thinking everyone is as locked into the internet and it's ecology as they are.

    Most of the trump and bernie trains are the results of people stewing in dillusional internet bubbles then unleashing their stupidity on the world. But both fell short because they assumed everyone else was as internet dependent and locked into bullshit 1898 ideologies they learned on youtube. If you're online you would think the polity in any given country is 'on the brink' but if you're operating in real life politics occupies 3% of a normal persons actual thoughts day to day and people use the internet to jack off, date, buy stuff and laugh. It's only R/politics people and journalists that only tweet that would have you thinking twitter and facebook are actually making a difference. The way ppl that watch CNN will tell you CNN is making a difference. There's someone out there that thinks his local newspaper's bias coverage is making a difference.

    I think FB and Twitter have to be regulated like media companies and google has to be broken up (even though it's literally CIA at this point), but there is also an overhyping of their roles in people's lives outside of self satisfaction and an overestimation of how many people give a fuck about either (especially twitter which is only gay people from NY that work at newspapers, trannies and black middle class kids who gentrified brooklyn with white ppl and want to sound like they're deep)
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    The Swift removal of Parler will probably prove troublesome for FB, Apple and Google. Mainly because of the grounds they removed it on, that it was somehow responsible for its users content for inciting mass riots of right wingers.

    Zero people arrested in the capitol thus far had a Parler account. But I’d guess most if not all a had FB or Twitter.

    All this is right now is a monopoly partnered with a political party in a mission to silence their rivals both political and entrepreneurial.
    It is alarmingly corrupt and “authoritarian” because of its brazen nature.


    The Congress will be United on this because that building houses some of the biggest criminals and most corrupt, and dishonest narcissistic people in the country. It’s why their approval rating is always consistently low. I think it’s 20% last time I checked.

    The future is looking spicy, as the kids say.

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    Wtf does Machiavelli have to do with anything?

    >Hillary the most unpopular candidate ever
    >Hillary won the popular vote

    Makes sense.

    >Twitter doesn’t have that big of an impact
    >Trump fanbase exists in an internet bubble

    Makes sense.

    It’s not that twitter has replaced anything but it’s where people get their information from and it’s a platform for Trump and others to launch themselves from. Ordinarily these things don’t have a real life impact like gender pronouns but when the president has 88m followers this is a whole new ball game.

    Trump doesn’t get elected without twitters it’s simple, you can be low-iq and facetious about where was Bill Clinton’s account but he used that in a way to rally his supporters like nobody ever did. His rants were hilarious if you took them as senile rants but dangerous when taken seriously and many people did. The news could and did at times just cut him off their feed and then he’s silence but at that point all he had to do was whip out the phone and go on a rant and he’s got a direct message to his fanbase.

    silencing political speech should never happen and neither should spreading political misinformation by removing sides of the argument to fit a narrative. Calling Trump out and flagging his posts as misleading was fine but leaving it until he declared “we won and won big” was far too late.
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    In the US we have a popular vote, and an electoral college vote. Trump lost the popular vote to hilary clinton. Hilary lost the electoral college to Trump and that's what counts. Hilary won the lowest voter turnout election on record by a slim margin but not enough to secure a victory when it counted. So what I said made sense if you know what you're talking about.

    corporations are not wings of the government. Cilvarings is not violating Sense-a's 'freedom of speech' by banning him on a website he made for entertainment. Twitter is not a part of the government. The term freedom of speech comes from a clause saying 'congress should not infrige on the freedom of speech'. You cannot take a private company to court and win using 'freedom of speech' because they're private institutions and not the congress at that.

    It doesn't matter how you feel it should be, that's what it is and if you want to solve the problem you have to accept that. If you fight the problem talking about 'freedom of speech' you'll lose. Taking twitter away from Trump can be called several things but 2 things it can't be called are illegal or unconstitutional. I don't really know where you're going with trump wouldn't have won without twitter. Maybe maybe not nigga we only have this reality to content with and nothing to compare it with.








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    Yes I’m aware of how the USA voting works hence why I made the connection between the two because saying the person who won the popular vote was the most hated candidate in history is stupid.

    Also comparing wu Corp to twitter is stupid as well and you don’t seem to understand social media either.

    I’m also not arguing about freedom of speech because that’s some stupid shit that only Americans care about because the rest of us in the western world understand that it is irrelevant; I am talking about political censorship here.
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    Trump is not being censored. He could call a press conference anytime he wants and get his message out. Also numerous radio and tv talk shoes, start his own site with a email list for members. If he is relying on someone elses platform to get the message out, its because he is a lazy golf/internet addict and its easy for him to do. Twitter isnt the end all-be all your making it out be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hound View Post
    Yes I’m aware of how the USA voting works hence why I made the connection between the two because saying the person who won the popular vote was the most hated candidate in history is stupid.

    Also comparing wu Corp to twitter is stupid as well and you don’t seem to understand social media either.

    I’m also not arguing about freedom of speech because that’s some stupid shit that only Americans care about because the rest of us in the western world understand that it is irrelevant; I am talking about political censorship here.
    if typically candidates win 8 votes minimum hilary won 4, trump just happened to win 3 because he's somehow a bigger clown. So even 'if she won', I think the number is 4.4 million democrats stayed home, and donald trump brought out the 3 million reddit niggas. Against Biden, who brought people out, trump got destroyed performing better than he did in 2016.

    My point is, as much as his following has a loud hypebeast wing, they're not an accurate gauge of what's doing on to people in general or the 'political divide' because they're a sliver of a sliver but are just ridiculous and get on the news a lot for it.


    Saying that trump being ban is political censorship means that people with political stances are immune from being banned from privately owned shit which is ridiculous. A cafe can say 'I don't want you here' to anyone, as can an app, even if the app is more popular than the cafe. Political censorship comes from the government. Private censorship is in no way illegal otherwise Sense-A would have gotten the 1 copy wutang cher-box cd in a settlement.

    Twitter is literally a dead ass app as well so trying to say it's some sort of decision making platform is ridiculous. Trump was giving them their juice but prior to this trump shit the talk was about it dying and refusing to get bought. Banning trump is only going to send them back to hell because it's just gay journalists beefing with disney movie casting directors.
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    They just walked in without incident. The police just allowed them to walk in. Lol.
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    The Biden administration will become very unpopular very quickly.

    Cancelling “Trumpers” is the easy part because they were never a threat like that anyway.

    Foreign leaders are already critiquing the obvious political purge.

    Many big issues for Papa Joe, just hope he doesn’t completely fuck up the economy for people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post


    They just walked in without incident. The police just allowed them to walk in. Lol.
    Basic white privilege. This is good example to show whites who cry about BLM. IF you don't think cops unjustly target minorities while protect their own, I got news for ya. Does that mean we should be rioting and looting? No, cuz the ends do not justify the means. If you hate on antifa BS but are OK with this you are hypocrite though, considering the damage and lives lost, including law enforcement

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    Lol, video shows protestors destroying windows and doors to get inside, pushing back barricades and overpowering the police. "but they just let them walk right in without incident! Muh white privilege!" Never mind that Portland had over 100 days of "protesting" though

    It's getting ridiculous that people are comparing facebook and twitter to local cafes and small businesses to the point where continuing the discussion on its current course isn't worth it. I've experienced an election that was swung 180° because of social media misinformation which facebook ironically said "We do not agree that it is our role to remove content that one side of a political debate considers to be false.” major lols so if others want to deny the impact exists well that's your choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hound View Post
    Lol, video shows protestors destroying windows and doors to get inside, pushing back barricades and overpowering the police. "but they just let them walk right in without incident! Muh white privilege!" Never mind that Portland had over 100 days of "protesting" though

    It's getting ridiculous that people are comparing facebook and twitter to local cafes and small businesses to the point where continuing the discussion on its current course isn't worth it. I've experienced an election that was swung 180° because of social media misinformation which facebook ironically said "We do not agree that it is our role to remove content that one side of a political debate considers to be false.” major lols so if others want to deny the impact exists well that's your choice
    Portland has been going real strong since New Years. Using Facebook and Twitter to orchestrate its “direct action” against state and feder buildings. When they get bored with that they smash up businesses.

    Groups like the Youth Liberation Front and Rose City Antifa all in conjunction with BLM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hound View Post
    Lol, video shows protestors destroying windows and doors to get inside, pushing back barricades and overpowering the police. "but they just let them walk right in without incident! Muh white privilege!" Never mind that Portland had over 100 days of "protesting" though

    It's getting ridiculous that people are comparing facebook and twitter to local cafes and small businesses to the point where continuing the discussion on its current course isn't worth it. I've experienced an election that was swung 180° because of social media misinformation which facebook ironically said "We do not agree that it is our role to remove content that one side of a political debate considers to be false.” major lols so if others want to deny the impact exists well that's your choice
    You're not making sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooch View Post
    The Biden administration will become very unpopular very quickly.

    Cancelling “Trumpers” is the easy part because they were never a threat like that anyway.

    Foreign leaders are already critiquing the obvious political purge.

    Many big issues for Papa Joe, just hope he doesn’t completely fuck up the economy for people.
    So President Biden and BLM/Anifta are to blame for idiots bum-rushing the US Capital? They broke in. Breaking in federal buildings means federal charges.

    This is the police fault for the riots last Summer and the US Capital being breached. Why do you think top cops were asked to quit by Mitch and others? However, during the Capital insurrection, no police used rubber bullets, beatings, or killed any of the people who broke in. They were in on it. Then people shift the blame to BLM and Anifta when evidence has stated that this isn't the case. It's easier to point the finger at a black person when no black people were present. Lol. Think about it.
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