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    lame ass Putin has announced he's gonna move tactical nukes to Belarus. his assault on Bakhmut isn't going as expected ha

    it's not like he's gonna deploy those nukes so it's whatever. I can't imagine he's gonna drop one on Kiev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Jones View Post
    lame ass Putin has announced he's gonna move tactical nukes to Belarus. his assault on Bakhmut isn't going as expected ha

    it's not like he's gonna deploy those nukes so it's whatever. I can't imagine he's gonna drop one on Kiev.

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    We'll see. If this is true, once any radioactive material enters any drinking water supply, it's a done deal. Ukraine will be inhabitable so what's the point of invading the country if you're going to contaminate the soil/groundwater?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    We'll see. If this is true, once any radioactive material enters any drinking water supply, it's a done deal. Ukraine will be inhabitable so what's the point of invading the country if you're going to contaminate the soil/groundwater?
    Exactly. On top of that the fall out could also go either way, West & East. Which would mean large parts west of Ukraine will be contaminated, and large parts into the east, Russia, will be contaminated.

    The end result of using a radioactive weapon will always be creating a radioactive wasteland that nobody can use. If that is his end game, that will nullify his whole operation of liberating the country. With the added risk of making your own country inhabitable. Any resources he may have wanted to secure, like land for grain, will be destroyed with it.
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    I think the possibility of Putin using the A-bomb would really be a last resort, and might not be aimed at Ukraine.

    Without Russia's ally stepping up, the war may continue for years and result in an embarrassing failure.

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    A man sentenced to two years in prison in a case launched against him after his daughter (12 years old) drew an anti-war picture at school is on the run from the authorities, a spokeswoman for a provincial court told journalists.
    Earlier Tuesday, a judge in the town of Yefremov in Russia’s Tula region, south of Moscow, found Alexei Moskalyov guilty of discrediting the Russian army on social media and sentenced him to two years in a penal colony.
    Moskalyov was not present at the hearing.


    Once the proceedings were over, a court spokeswoman, responding to inquiries as to Moskalyov’s whereabouts, said: “The defendant, Mr. Moskalyov, was not present when the verdict was announced because he fled house arrest last night.”

    Formally, Moskalyov was sentenced for two comments he made on social media in which he described Russian soldiers as rapists and Russia’s leadership as “terrorists.”
    But Moskalyov’s defense team and rights activists have argued his persecution is in fact retribution for a drawing made by his daughter Masha at school in April last year, when she was 12.
    In the drawing, a woman and child stand next to a flag reading “Glory to Ukraine” in the path of a rocket shower coming from the direction of a Russian tricolor flag labeled: “No to war.”
    According to an interview given by Moskalyov to independent media before his arrest, Masha’s teacher informed the director of the school, who then got the police involved, triggering a chain of interrogations that he claimed involved threats and beatings.



    ^^The guy was arrested in Minsk today. His daughter was put in an institution.
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    ^^That's a drop in the ocean. Most russians support the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutman View Post
    ^^That's a drop in the ocean. Most russians support the war.
    Most russians live in the sticks and aren't educated further than state propaganda.

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    Any story in western news about a child in a conflict zone is emotional blackmail/propaganda. Nothing saying it's not true though, but it doesn't say anything about the actual popularity of the war.
    The war is popular in Russia. We like to convince ourselves that people in other countries have our opinion on things and their leader doesn't, but Russians feel that Ukraine isn't a real country and that the EU is trying to steal a crucial part of Russia that should have been invaded along time ago. And that that Ukrainian president is the feds. This is who we propagandized ourselves into thinking Muslim women hate islam and like unilateral Nato invasions, and Iraqis secretly love foreign invasion because they hate local Saddam.

    People in a country at war support their country. Once we're talking about war nothing rational is happening on any end. The US is really good a messaging but it uses the same wheelhouse to get the job done and if we're being honest it's very obvious to anyone that's over 30 that this is trick #41: A child or woman is denied their opportunity to agree with the United States Department of Defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSA View Post
    Any story in western news about a child in a conflict zone is emotional blackmail/propaganda. Nothing saying it's not true though, but it doesn't say anything about the actual popularity of the war.
    The war is popular in Russia. We like to convince ourselves that people in other countries have our opinion on things and their leader doesn't, but Russians feel that Ukraine isn't a real country and that the EU is trying to steal a crucial part of Russia that should have been invaded along time ago. And that that Ukrainian president is the feds. This is who we propagandized ourselves into thinking Muslim women hate islam and like unilateral Nato invasions, and Iraqis secretly love foreign invasion because they hate local Saddam.

    People in a country at war support their country. Once we're talking about war nothing rational is happening on any end. The US is really good a messaging but it uses the same wheelhouse to get the job done and if we're being honest it's very obvious to anyone that's over 30 that this is trick #41: A child or woman is denied their opportunity to agree with the United States Department of Defense.
    We can take the hypocrisy part as read.

    You have access to a variety of educational sources and ideas, and can form your own opinions and voice them without fear of repercussions. Which is less the case for a Russian farmhand or Iraqi housewife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaDynasty View Post
    We can take the hypocrisy part as read.

    You have access to a variety of educational sources and ideas, and can form your own opinions and voice them without fear of repercussions. Which is less the case for a Russian farmhand or Iraqi housewife.

    So does everyone on earth unless they don't have the money or know how. Some countries have consequences for pursuing certain beliefs, our own included. You know there's things you can't google, you know there's an apparatus that monitors suspicious internet activity, you know there's movements you can't join, you know there's movements with arrested or dead leaders, you know there's US journalists in exile, on the run, dead or arrested. They're banning subjects and books all the time in the US. And this is just the government limitations, if you add corporate limitations on ppls access to info, fagedabadit

    I think we emphasis clown zones like North Korea to make it seem as if what we have in the west that other don't is the 'ability to challenge the government' or access information, or 'say what we want to say', but those things are common and limited everywhere at the same time in roughly the same way based on a national interest and culture.

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    There’s no way most Russians support this war. It’s dumb and pointless. But I can see Russia using nukes out of spite to end the war quicker and avoid further embarrassment

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    I think they do, but I have no idea why TSA is trying to justify the war on the basis of ”we all have our quirks”. Some places are quantitatively worse than others.

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    ^^25 miles off target wtf.
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    CBF discussing with that dude but here's a wikipedia entry on anti-war protests in Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-w...%80%93present) and reportedly 1 in 4 people in favour of the war https://theconversation.com/ukraine-...t-putin-196163
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