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That Deck album had wu production all over it haha. Everyone just delivered him weak beats or he's not good at picking beats. 2 RZA Beats, 2 4th Disciple Beats, 3 True Master Beats, 5 Deck Beats. I mean.....that should be enough in the 90's for a crazy album. If I told you we'd get an album with these producers ya'll would be drooling. Deck didn't deliver as he should've.
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Deck needed and deserved 15 RZA tracks regardless of a flood. Peace
He ain't like the Ghostdog beats.
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Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
its really not produced bad at all. Its just missing the features. I really dont hate anything on the album. Im just not 10/10 blown away with most the tracks
troubleman, uncontrolled substance,9th chamber, lovein you, elevation, show and prove, word on the street, rec room, longevity, night shift, forget me not; best songs imo. Which leaves like 6-7 cool but not incredible tracks.
Tho the rza track the settlement was used better on the “scary movies freestyle”.
friction is in same fanily as assassination day and execute them
its 5 wu collab trades away from beung a really great album. Its a shame rza wouod give away wu tracks to everyone but deck. Tres leches, execute them, rap burglars, semi automatic, cross ya heart, one more to go w/ deadly venoms easily could have been saved for this album and turned it around.
I'm 50/50 with you. I agree some more features could've done this justice. I'd say maybe 2-3 more features. Rae, Ghost, Meth, GZA could've added to this one and gave it some spice. But with that said the beats where lacking "Movers & Shakers" is an average RZA beat, "Grand Prix" average 4th Beat, "Femme Fatal" wack deck beat. Guest beats could've been way better on here to me. Beats alone could've gave this a boost.
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I wasnt a Deck or a Wu Tang fan at the time Uncontrolled Substance dropped. (I was into the whole DMX and Ruff Ryders movement)
But, i can see what u saying though!
He was killing it in almost everything he was on, and i guess the album was very anticipated.
His Collaborations with Pun, Pete Rock, Gang Starr were outstanding.
But, we shoulnt blame only RZA, but Deck is to blame on this too cause he accepted those beats instead of being more hands on the project himself.
If he knew RZA was busy with other stuff like his Bobby Digital album, Wu Killa Beez compilation and The W album.
He should’ve tried to make other moves so the album wouldnt have end up like Rae’s sophmore album.
i too struggle with movers and shakers cause it just doesnt really fit the rest of the album. I dont think its a bad song or beat per say, it just doesnt grab me like all the other wu intros do.
femme fatal does have a weird beat. Its okay… but after relistening to my mix above, it just dont hit like the other songs. Feel the same way with the original settlement after hearing the superior stretch and bobbito scary movies version.
very true. He gave rza and gza and ghost great beats. Elevation/stay true, beneath the surface and kiss of black widow were serious heaters.
elevation is fire. Word on the street too. The cause and hyperdermix are cool but not better than the others.
it is decks call but i think everyone assumed a wu heavy project. With atleast a method man and raekwon track. Especially rae being on loud
i mean ugod got meth rae and deck.
deck can only get ugod mkilla and streetlife?
I mean whoever made that call whether it was Loud or deck or the clan themselves saying no well never know.
still think its one of the higher qualitu wu releases. But typical witj the clan after forever, every album has a sample issue problem and some of the best songs are always cut.
Night shift would have been the best song on the album. And settlement one of the best verses. Even with the extra true mast/rza songs, still needs those collabs.
the authentic by ruthless bastards
stay bent by IGC prod by alchemist
one more to go by deadly venoms ft wu
cross your hear ft gza and killah priesy
tres Leches ft P and big pun
execute them fr rae mkilla and streetlife
Shaolin worldwide ft meth and streetlife
rap burglars ft raekwon
put ya hammer down ft wu
verbal slaughter by cellar dwellars
a few of these for a few of the lesser tracks and i think we look at it the diff way
Last edited by ForensikZ; 05-20-2023 at 08:00 PM.
Well, that’s a good point.
Deck didn’t get support from Clan heavy hitters like Rae, Ghost and Meth, I think even a ODB skit or intro would’ve made it for me.
What fucks me up is that Deck has never dropped a consistent album, I remember when Resident Patient was dropped and heard Sound of the Slumbs with MK it was finally his time to shine but I was wrong!
His Czarface album are the part of his discography.
Can we also speak about him doing his chorus'. That shit sound empty and does not hold the same weight as when Uey does it.
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Regarding the 3 albums. Couple of months ago I listened to NSD again. I had sort of just forgotten about it. It's a nice album, and a fan service.
For both Deck & U-God I think they have at least one classic still in. If only for the fact that they have an urge to proof themselves. You can hear this constantly with U-God. He still has this hunger. US & Dopium are not peak for them.
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INS shouldn't be doing hooks. 'Movers & Shakers' etc - the hooks sound flat. Uey does great hooks just off the strength of his voice.
INS should stick to doing verses. Same with MK, but to a lesser extent. Meth on the other hand was born for hooks (and verses, obviously). ODB? Great guy for a hook too. RIP.
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