Ghostface Killah - Pretty Toney
Krayzie Bone - Gemini: Good vs Bad
Pimp C - Sweet James Jones storys
WTC - Iron flag
Timbuktu - AVTHMIVJD
and some more.
Ghostface Killah - Pretty Toney
Krayzie Bone - Gemini: Good vs Bad
Pimp C - Sweet James Jones storys
WTC - Iron flag
Timbuktu - AVTHMIVJD
and some more.
BE
Blueprint
Supreme Clientele
2001
only classics !!!
The Realness
BE
Madvillainy
Supreme Clientelle
5{\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\02000]GRIND DATE....CLASSIC????
I think some of you are just naming good albums, and not actual CLASSICS.....
.....a CLASSIC is an album that either changes the game some how, is fresh and super creative, or defines a period in time
Some of you fools are calling albums like JADAKISS KISS THE GAME GOODBYE, OBIE TRICE, etc fuckin classics......makes me laugh[/QUOTE]
you called 50's album classic man, thats what makes me laugh
If they left off most of they shitty guest appearances it would've been damn close to classic... Just replace the subpar NorthStar affiliates with some guest-spots by RZA, ODB, Meth, Masta Killa... That shit coulda been 5 Mic material.Originally Posted by mn2683
No order
Stillmatic
Lost Tapes
Death is Certain
The Testatment
The Realness
Aziatic
No Said Date
I Can't Believe Nobody Said "shabazz The Disciple-the Book Of Shabazz"
Nas-stillmatic
Dead Prez-rbg
Ghostface Killah-supreme Clientele
Masta Ace-a Long Hot Summer
Mos Def-black On Both Sides (although I'm Not Sure That Was Released After 2000)
...i'm Probably Forgetting A Couple
BLACK ON BOTH SIDES came out in 1999Originally Posted by cap
I think some of these are pushing it man.........like do you think ten years from now, or even two years from now pople will be talking about DEATH IS CERTAIN or AZIATIC as pushing the boundries of hip hop...........like are they going to be mentioned with READY TO DIE or ILLMATIC...........I dont fuckin think soOriginally Posted by reptile
you called 50's album classic man, thats what makes me laugh[/QUOTE]Originally Posted by static quo
Sure I would say 50 CENTS GET RICH OR DYING is classic over GRIND DATE........if you like it or not......that album was like thre soundtrack to 2003......you could not walk down the street without hearing it.......kinda like when CHRONIC came out in 1992.....
GRIND DATE was a good record........but it aint even DE LA's best record........like it came out a year ago and it is almost forgotten already
To me, a classic has to be more enjoyable than it is ground breaking.
Get Rich or Die Trying might have sold a lot of records, hell, I'll admit I bought it, but that doesn't mean it was good. I liked it in 2003, but I listened to a lot of garbage then, and when I replayed it at the begining of this year I hated it. It's not a classic if it sucks 2 years later.
Out of this list:
supreme clientele
madvillainy
iron flag
be
no said date
marshall mathers lp
revolutionary vol. 2
the blueprint
stillmatic
I have Supreme Clientele, Iron Flag, No Said Date, Marshal Mathers LP & Stillmatic, and I wouldn't say any of them are classics. Supreme Clientele is the closest to a classic in that list, but to me that's more of a very good album than a 10/10 album. It has some skippable tracks and the skits are annoying.
Iron Flag is no way a classic. I only like a few songs on it, and where that might be opinion, you can ask most people about Iron Flag and I doubt many would think of it as classic. For Wu, some of the songs straight out sucked (Chrome Wheels, Soul Power) and the lyrics on most songs were nothing special.
No Said Date is good, but not all the songs are great, I find the first few songs pretty boring, and Masta Killa is hardly a classic material MC, just a great MC every now and then.
Marshal Mathers has it's skippables. I liked this when I first got it a few years ago, but now when I listen to it, most of the tracks are boring.
Stillmatic is good lyrically, but the beats aren't great. To me it's a consistantly good album but nothing really goes about good.
jays blueprint is classic - stop hating
I don't grade a album based off what a dumbed down socitey is going to say and I don't grade off what pushed somebodies boundaries. Ready 2 Die is great but not classic IMO- due to wack skits, and "Big Poppa" which ignores the concept of the album, that he had going on. U could tell he did that song strictly for the sales, so the album looses artistic points for it. It got 4.5 mics when it first came out for a reason. And 10 years from now I will definetly be talkin bout Death is Certain. Not sure about AZiatic, but its still classic. Popular opinion don't determine a classic. Seems like only the movie industry understands this.Originally Posted by tical2000
Sure I would say 50 CENTS GET RICH OR DYING is classic over GRIND DATE........if you like it or not......that album was like thre soundtrack to 2003......you could not walk down the street without hearing it.......kinda like when CHRONIC came out in 1992.....Originally Posted by tical2000
GRIND DATE was a good record........but it aint even DE LA's best record........like it came out a year ago and it is almost forgotten already[/QUOTE]
hmm, yeah grind date isnt de la's best offering but it is a hell of alot better then some of the shit that has been suggested. you obviously feel 50's style and i like some of the beats on get rich or die trying, but classic? the guy can hardly string two words together and im not saying that cause im a hater of commercial shit, its just a fact. get rich or die trying may have had an impact on the marketability of hip hop but it aint a modern day classic or even a good album.
possibly classic:
JMT-visionz of gandhi
Mk-NSD
Gza-legend of the liquid swords
J5-power in no. and quality control
all i can think of now, but these arent really classic, just ill albums.
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