islam dissected

[Fragmented]

1. Many great scientists have been Muslim. Explain this.

2. Why is Islam to be judged and rejected by some particular 'science', rather than science by Islam? Explain your epistemology; i.e., how you know what you know. Why does experimental testing 'prove' the truth of something any more than, for example, revelation?

-'Isa Iskandar

name these great scientist that have been muslim ?

any your arguement here, in all honesty lack credibility, science is tirelessly researched, criticised, things added and removed, as new discoveries are made, science is uncomprimising in this respect, can the same be said about islam? didn't think so so trying to judge science by islamic standard would be a step back into the dark ages, literally

testing is to conclude result to thoeries if a theory can withstand heavy testing giving identical or 99.9% simularity over a long period of time , this indicates a reliable foundation for something to be established as fact.

if islam took any criticism, it wouldn't survive, thats why people who criticise islam openly are often killled, if we adapt the same practice science uses, then islam would crumble as it isn't fact it's simple a mix of folklore, brutality, narcasism and, what they do try and use as a so called "scientific" core is crude explations which as i have shown are often incorrect, if allah created us then why would his book to us contain wrong information ? there no reason for him to make a mistake is there ?

peace

[thejesusfunk]

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[My First Timbs]

Allah's book contains no 'wrong' information, and Allah has made, and does not make, mistakes, by definition.

this is the very definition of dogma and the religious fallacy of unfalsifiability.

there are inumerable instances in teh Quran where information is presented and interpreted as fact but meanwhile it is glaringly incorrect.

the most famous example (and we have discused this ad naseum in KTL) is the alleged facts of embryology contained in the Quran or Quranic documents.

its a blatant example of unforgivable intellectual dishonesty when one claims that the Quran (or any holy text) is inerrant

[My First Timbs]

Lastly, Islam is certainly not "simple [sic] a mix of folklore, brutality, narcasism [sic]". It is an holistic religious worldview that deals with science, revelation, faith, intellect - body, mind and spirit. Show me where it is simply folklore, brutality and narcissism, or simply shut the fuck up.

the tone and content of this post speaks volumes about religion and it being contested with reason

[thejesusfunk]

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[thejesusfunk]

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[Urban_Journalz]

Dogma Timbs??? Dogma???
You haven't read The Qur'an, so, once again, you're talkin' out of you ass.

[My First Timbs]

Dogma Timbs??? Dogma???
You haven't read The Qur'an, so, once again, you're talkin' out of you ass.

ive read and studied the quran and almost every ancient holy text on this planet (and most in their original translation)

[My First Timbs]

Prove that unfalsifiability is a fallacy. What does that even mean?

this shows that any conversation i bring forth is moot because u contest the very principle which u dont even understand or know the definition of

[thejesusfunk]

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[thejesusfunk]

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[My First Timbs]

lol

[My First Timbs]

Prove that the Qur'an presents those 'embryological facts' as facts, precisely, that are meant to be taken literally and in a scientifically biological sense. If they were never meant to be read that way, then it would mean less than nothing that they don't apply to contemporary findings.

The Qur'an does not say, here are some facts on embryology for you. It presents a highly symbolic account of the conception and birth of man, intended to provide us with a sense of our beginnings, NOT to give precise medical details.

if thats the islamic stance all of a sudden, "that the details of embryology are to be read non literally as symbolism"... then my reply is that "they are symbolically incorrect"

symbolism or not,, the order and mechanism is all screwed up.. so its incorrect and thus , could not have been divinely inspired as ppl claim and want so bad

It is a central claim of Islam and the Qur'an itself that it is inerrant. Nearly every Muslim on the planet believes this, as many believers of other faiths believe regarding their scriptures.
...Spiritus.

so is it inerrant or not? if it is and this is admitted to, then all is well and good,,,, but if it is not inerrant, something is fishy, cause its filled with many errors.


Yo Blak !

[SubtleEnergies]

Religion is a mental illness. Participation in this conversation is a mental illness.

Religion is when people think their viewpoint based on what their ego concludes is right. Union with God is the sublimation of the Ego to connect with the divine.

[My First Timbs]

in my latest book (that im working on now)

i am focussing on exactly what u state

The title is tentatively : "Why Bad Beliefs Won't Die"
and one of the chapters deals with religion and adherence to religious claims as a form of psychosis that ranges from mild to severe.