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    Quote Originally Posted by Civilison
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    that you started to write in capital letters

    your mind is buggin out when the angels sing

    i thought that i seen you on the subway today

    peace to you my brother
    had to test see if i could still rock the old styles

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHX
    you mean the difference is the ability to define 'kingdoms'

    and notice the similarities between ourselves and other things on this planet

    and then make the observation that it seems that we have made a conscious decision to exclude ourselves from the animal kingdom which, from a certain perspective, we seem to belong to
    yes, the only difference is our abiluty to come up with categories itself!

    what im saying is that we are animals

    the word animal should not evoke an emotional response.. nor should the word "animal" be viewed with a negative connotation.. living things of a eukaryotic nature are either plants or animal

    humans are animals

    it is mainly human arrogance and ego that is the guiding force that allows us to want to distinguish or separate ourselved from the animal kingdom, meanwhile all the while it is to no avail because we are what we are..

    we are eukaryotic, chordates (vertebrates) belonging to the class mammalia (mammals) and the order/subgenus primatae..

    does everyone agree that there are only 2 choices "plant or animal"?

    lets start there... or do those that think that humans should not be defined as animals believe that homo sapien is a class of life in and of itself (ie plant, animal, human)
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    Humans are like, bipedal, cerebral and relatively fur-free. Its this, in part that gives us the impression that we're different (and superior) to all the other animals. Even if the most important thing for us to do is maintain our bloodline. I guess being able to rationalise brings double standards along with it.

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    I don't think we should get carried away with this humans are animals stuff.

    If humans = animals, then animals = humans.

    No? Then we ain't animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My First Timbs
    yes, the only difference is our abiluty to come up with categories itself!

    what im saying is that we are animals

    the word animal should not evoke an emotional response.. nor should the word "animal" be viewed with a negative connotation.. living things of a eukaryotic nature are either plants or animal

    humans are animals

    it is mainly human arrogance and ego that is the guiding force that allows us to want to distinguish or separate ourselved from the animal kingdom, meanwhile all the while it is to no avail because we are what we are..
    LMAO - i dig it Timbs

    the thing i love most about your observations is that they can be used to prove the opposing point of view

    it was human arrogance and ego that made 'the animal kingdom' - and i agree - it is human arrogance and ego that separates ourselves from what we created

    Quote Originally Posted by My First Timbs
    we are eukaryotic, chordates (vertebrates) belonging to the class mammalia (mammals) and the order/subgenus primatae..

    does everyone agree that there are only 2 choices "plant or animal"?

    lets start there... or do those that think that humans should not be defined as animals believe that homo sapien is a class of life in and of itself (ie plant, animal, human)
    there are some who think that all definitions are inadequate, and applying anything as static as a label to these things is to misunderstand their nature







    side note - where do insects and microbiology fit into your schematics?
    all the points have been made

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
    I don't think we should get carried away with this humans are animals stuff.

    If humans = animals, then animals = humans.

    No? Then we ain't animals.

    Worst disproval ever.
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    lmao...I tried, but I really hate the animal/human analogy. And I didn't want to just say that, so i thought I'd get creative wit it.
    It was wack. lol

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    from a common sense approach to things, the only difference between animal and plant is the ability to roam the land, and some people could even argue that plants DO move, but they move a lot slower


    as for the other part:
    the difference between the human animal and non-human animal is intelligence

    ego comes AFTER intelligence
    all the points have been made

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    Is ego a good thing? or, is it bad?

    Is there 'good' ego and 'bad' ego. Or is it all the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
    Is ego a good thing? or, is it bad?

    Is there 'good' ego and 'bad' ego. Or is it all the same?
    an ego is a tool

    used in the right way - it is good
    some might even say necessary


    used the way we see it these days, it is bringing our civilization to an end


    it is thru the ego that we are able to see equality
    and you-know-who can't get to equality
    all the points have been made

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
    I don't think we should get carried away with this humans are animals stuff.

    If humans = animals, then animals = humans.

    No? Then we ain't animals.
    lmao

    that makes no sense what so ever

    if all mafia hitmen are italian = all italians are mafia hitmen

    hahahahahahah

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    side note - where do insects and microbiology fit into your schematics
    its very simple

    microbes that are eukaryotic (meaning composed of more than one cell) are lumped into the animal category... altho by in large most microbes are prokaryotic (unicellular)

    all insects are in the animal category (they of course are multicellular, however are simply invertebrate)

    i did neglect to mention the other category

    there are plants, animals and fungi (i 4got to mention fungi are fundamentally different from plants)

    so humans are obviously animal.

    definition or not, from a simple classification standpoint its obvious that we are no different from all the other creatures lumped into the animal category

    in order to seperate ourselves we must 1st have a justifiable reason to do so (ie an objective nomenclature based charateristic) that distinguishes us from other "animals"... asof yet there are none.

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    from a common sense approach to things, the only difference between animal and plant is the ability to roam the land, and some people could even argue that plants DO move, but they move a lot slower
    This is wrong on so many levels.

    If humans = animals, then animals = humans.
    Learn to think properly. Thats not a dis. Your thought process really is off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Os3y3ris
    This is wrong on so many levels.
    go ahead

    im listening
    all the points have been made

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