Method Man - 4-21 The Day After

[Hollow Dartz]

Yeah Imagine U-God and Meth on those beats on SWFQW.

[rubyspirit]

i think some people hold Rza to a rediculous standard that no other producer it held to.

He is that good.

Havoc's beat was just OK.

I've learn my lesson. Today I spent a couple of hours picking my 12 top RZA songs, and he is a gem. DOPE PRODUCER .

[Dante]

I still say Havoc had the best beat on 421, shit was grimy

[Dante]

After listening to 421 again, im gonna have to say the 421 Intro is not only the best track on this album, but the best Wu track in years, possibly even the best Wu track of this millenium so far, shit is fucking insane, Meth was on some other shit for real. Vintage Meth right there

[rubyspirit]

I still say Havoc had the best beat on 421, shit was grimy

The only thing with Havoc, there's no scratching. DJ scratching is the essence of hip hop. On 4:21 only RZA gives us the pure dope. Top it off with Meth's vocals....ahhhhh. I'm so high. Have been for weeks.

Konichiwa B*tches is hot to def!

[ShaDynasty]

The only thing with Havoc, there's no scratching. DJ scratching is the essence of hip hop. On 4:21 only RZA gives us the pure dope. Top it off with Meth's vocals....ahhhhh. I'm so high. Have been for weeks.

Konichiwa B*tches is hot to def!

yup, RZA makes all the other tracks seem like an exercise in futitlity
havocs beat wasnt bad, but hes definetly fell into a more distinct pattern when it comes to his production, his heyday was like 10 years back. on the evidence of rzas 4 beats, ill be really anticipating a whole album produced by him, in whatever form that may (or most likely not) come in

[Dante]

I still don't see what so great about the RZA beats on this album, but i respect your opinions

[Rezyrector]

"Say" - tha best song!!

[CHRONZ]

Everything (Feat. Inspectah Deck & Streetlife)
Straight up fire man ! DAMN

[benzo]

RZA doesn't scratch on those records, man! Trust me, he 's got a DJ to lay shit down. Highlights were:
-Intro
-Somebody Done Fucked Up (best beat)
-4:20 (2nd best beat)
-Preseidential Emcee
-Everything (Mathmatics killed it)

anybody else been smokin more blunts here lately?

[THE W]

how do you know he doesnt do the scratching?

[benzo]

You ever see RZA scratch? Super basic shit. You'll never see him transforming, crabbing, etc. It's pretty commonly known that many producers use actual DJs for their shit. Of course, someone like Premo would be an exception. Dre doesn't scratch, Kayne, etc. Maybe more like 50/50 but alot of these dudes are producers first, then (maybe) DJs second. Peace-

and if you have proof otherwise, i'll gladly stand corrected.

[THE W]

Rza talked about being a DJ way back in the day and how he would go to DJ battles. its in the issue of scratch magazine with Rza on the cover with the cuban linx 2 article. he won some, he lost some but he definately has scratching skills though he doesnt do it a lot.

there's a video of Rza going back and forth with allah math on the 1s and 2s on rap city the basement. he can certainly do it. theres also a video of him with ugod on teen summit where he's in the back on the boards.

here's the rap city video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoLceXSzY6U

[benzo]

^yeah, i've seen that. that's real basic shit. i'm not saying dude can't cut, or even that he didn't record his cuts on 4:21, but he's far from a gifted DJ. i've never seem him do anything as far as fader techniques that's impressive. spinning two marked records back 2 seconds while cutting the fader on and off is like....the first shit you learn when you're cutting up. Whatever though, the scratches sound good on the album and whether RZA or someone did em, it was probably still RZA's call on what would get used. Peace Dynamite-

[THE W]

nah he's not a DJ specialist(on premier's level) but he can get the job done.

you think the scratches on 421 were advanced?