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    Quote Originally Posted by J-DON View Post
    All Killer, No Filler is what the wu would be without all the bullshit affiliates. Especially the RZA albums (Cept Doc Doom and Holocaust on In Stereo, And Cilvarings is pretty coo on BOAP).



    Tons of dudes are way better than any of those.



    The Clan isnt respecting itself by letting all these weak ass cats infiltrate and weild the logo.


    Only Wu Affiliates worth having on a Generals album

    Street Life
    Killah Priest (any sunz of man dudes usually bring it)
    Carlton Fisk
    Holocaust (not anymore though)
    Cilvaringz (hes alright)
    Trife Da God
    Cappadonna

    im prob missing a couple but most of the other ones just blow it especially RZA and Rae's dudes.
    i'm happy with 90% of the affiliates & rza is happy with 100% otherwise they wouldn't be part of the clan. where is it your place to decide what's hot what should be not? it's just your own little opinion.
    how would you like it if i said snoop dog or tim dog or what ever the fuck you listen to sucks that's not cool i won't do that but thats what u doing to me right now i mostly listen to the affilliates i love the music we all got diffrent shit we like by you saying they suck is not cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMESH View Post
    i'm happy with 90% of the affiliates & rza is happy with 100% otherwise they wouldn't be part of the clan. where is it your place to decide what's hot what should be not? it's just your own .
    when did i ever say I should be the one to decide? I just gave my opinion like you said, and im entitled to do so. You can say anybody sucks, its freedom of speech. This isnt a kindergarten class where I gotta worry about kids feelings, this is a message board called BRING DA RUCKUS for fucks sake. You and your post can eat a dick.



    As for BOAP being on Supreme level with better lyrics, I dont think so. There were some wack beats on it as well wheras Supreme has about 0 wack beats IMO. BOAP would need an overhaul on Guests, Lyrics, Choruses Especially, and a few beat changes to be on Supreme Level. But dont get me wrong, im one of the few who actually likes BOAP (would rate it about a 7)
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-DON View Post
    when did i ever say I should be the one to decide? I just gave my opinion like you said, and im entitled to do so. You can say anybody sucks, its freedom of speech. This isnt a kindergarten class where I gotta worry about kids feelings, this is a message board called BRING DA RUCKUS for fucks sake. You and your post can eat a dick.



    As for BOAP being on Supreme level with better lyrics, I dont think so. There were some wack beats on it as well wheras Supreme has about 0 wack beats IMO. BOAP would need an overhaul on Guests, Lyrics, Choruses Especially, and a few beat changes to be on Supreme Level. But dont get me wrong, im one of the few who actually likes BOAP (would rate it about a 7)
    thank god u not the 1 2 decide & yes u are entiteled to be an asshole
    saying people suck is uncalled for & it's a bitch move unless you defending yourself & willing to back it up. i don't like alot of rappers out there but i'm not going to shit on thier names cause one of thier is going to tell me to fuck myself like i'm going to tell u go fuck yourself
    u can't judge raes crew evryone knows the leader of american cream team is dead they never dropped a cd
    never got the chance to hear the hood cd but i heard from my crew ice water got skills
    you should take all that negative energy you got & go to yoga u fuckin bitch i didn't really want to swear you i think you got potencial you know quite a bit about the clan thats cool
    just try to understand u going to get negative attention if u diss mc's cause they all got some type of following & they going to offended

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    ^^^LOL, no one said they are ALL wack,



    we are talkin' bout the guest apperances on bobby digital albums...


    I completely agree with what you said about those affiliates, RAMESH !

    actually you said it very nice...


    BUT you also got alot wack killabeez, like division... and they are all over bobby digital album

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    Quote Originally Posted by venex View Post
    ^^^LOL, no one said they are ALL wack,



    we are talkin' bout the guest apperances on bobby digital albums...


    I completely agree with what you said about those affiliates, RAMESH !

    actually you said it very nice...


    BUT you also got alot wack killabeez, like division... and they are all over bobby digital album

    peace!
    Just out of curiosity Venex who else besides Division do you think are wack?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TAURO DA GRIM LATIN View Post
    Just out of curiosity Venex who else besides Division do you think are wack?

    imma post a little list soon, I got something to do know...


    but don't forget, some of my fav mc's are wu-fam ! (imma post those I think are wack, and those who are great)

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    RZA's probably closer to Division personally. Do you guys honestly think an album will sell better if he replaces Free Murda with Timbo King on a track? To us it may mean the world because we know Timbo's better but do most people know that and will it impact album sales? And can you imagine how hard it might be to track down some of the higher caliber mcs when it's cheaper to just bring in ya boys? Think about it for a minute and although for us it sucks it's not too hard to understand why RZA would do this. I think out of everyone in the clan, I trust RZA's judgment the most.

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    ^^good points all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc051 View Post
    RZA's probably closer to Division personally. Do you guys honestly think an album will sell better if he replaces Free Murda with Timbo King on a track? To us it may mean the world because we know Timbo's better but do most people know that and will it impact album sales? And can you imagine how hard it might be to track down some of the higher caliber mcs when it's cheaper to just bring in ya boys? .

    Who gives a shit about sales? If you cant find anybody good then dont even bother and do the tracks solo and make it a shorter cut. Id rather that than hear some of the dudes that get on wu cd's butchering tracks with wack shit.

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    The guests on Bobby Digital In Stereo were nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antibody View Post
    I'm talking stuff like putting Division on 3 songs on Birth of a Prince. Maybe 1 song would be ok, but 3? the beat for 'the drop off' could have been used so much better.

    Tash mahogony on Koto Choton aswell... that could have been a great wu song with another clan member isntead.

    Im just listening to birth of a prince now the guest rappers really bring it down, I noticed it on bobby digi in stereo aswell but its not as bad as boap.
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    not all affiliates are bad, of course some of them are great, but a lot of them are average and some suck. Divison suck a lot and theyre on 3 tracks from BOAP (wtf? rza why?). A lot of guests on rzas albums arent bad but average, like beretta 9 dont really ruin the songs but he dont really bring anything to them either.

    RZA albums would be sooo much better with wu guest features or at least better affiliates (like killarmy or killah priest)

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    ^^maybe he doesn't think it's wack ??


    cuz the RZA also got wack verses on bobby digital albums !!!!(don't hate on me, cuz i'm the biggest RZA fan)

    On "enter the wutang" he didn't had wack verses...
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    Quote Originally Posted by venex View Post
    ^^maybe he doesn't think it's wack ??


    cuz the RZA also got wack verses on bobby digital albums !!!
    that is an excellent point

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    Quote Originally Posted by venex View Post
    ^^maybe he doesn't think it's wack ??


    cuz the RZA also got wack verses on bobby digital albums !!!!(don't hate on me, cuz i'm the biggest RZA fan)

    On "enter the wutang" he didn't had wack verses...

    truth, but if Rza has lowered the standard of what he considers 'dope' then that sucks for us fans who have a higher standard set by better verses (lets be fair, it's hardly opinion that early wu-tang verses and guests is better than the new ones on rza albums).

    I'm serious in saying this, if BoaP had better quality control on the verses and guests it could be in the same league as supreme clientele.
    Instead it's a weak album with some nice beats and a few nice tracks here and there.
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