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    Quote Originally Posted by NickyTooch View Post
    Mathematics is very relevant in our world. Its a system of measurement when you break it down. Without it, most technology is feeble. Do we need it as humans to survive? No, but without it we are still hunter gatherer tribes.
    word, maths is definitely a crucial tool in our everyday life. If numbers seized for a minute there would be chaos. if equations got mixed up etc, again there would be chaos, ie.stock markets, hospitals etc etc.

    but see, mathematics seems 1+1=2 but maths requires more thought than mere reliance on it. the fact that we would have chaos in the absence of mathematics shows how vulnerable we are with a topic still so open.

    earlier posts already suggested clearly why or how maths is limited to a certain degree.

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    0/9 = 0

    9/0 = undefined

    Who here can say why?

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    6x+10=28
    -10=-10
    6x = 18
    6x 6x

    x=3


    The answer is 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickyTooch View Post
    Mathematics is very relevant in our world. Its a system of measurement when you break it down. Without it, most technology is feeble. Do we need it as humans to survive? No, but without it we are still hunter gatherer tribes.
    You say it like it's a bad thing.

    For the record, many hunting and gathering tribes relied heavily on mathematics in there everyday walk of life.

    I'll be hitting this thread up now that i'm back in my Algebra courses. I might need some online tutoring from some one knowledgable in complex Algebraic expressions and graphing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman View Post
    6x+10=28




    -10=-10
    6x = 18
    6x 6x

    x=3


    The answer is 3
    Your end answer is correct, but you process is messed up. You don't carry that x vairable. That'll fuck you up on more complicated equations.

    according to what you did:

    6x+10=28

    -10=-10
    6x = 18
    6x 6x

    you would get:

    6x=18
    6x 6x

    or

    1=18/6x
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    ^ he means minus 10 from each side.

    then divide each side by 6.

    how is that wrong?



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    Quote Originally Posted by sean michael View Post
    ^ he means minus 10 from each side.

    then divide each side by 6.

    how is that wrong?
    I know what he meant. I was just correcting a mistake in his method.

    He divided both sides by 6x. He should have divided both sides by just 6 to get X by it's self.

    That's how you come to x=3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini View Post
    I know what he meant. I was just correcting a mistake in his method.

    He divided both sides by 6x. He should have divided both sides by just 6 to get X by it's self.

    That's how you come to x=3
    I know. I always do that when I encounter a problem like that. I know what x is. Here's another one.

    2(x+4)=6(x+8)

    2x+8=6x+48

    2x+8=6x-6x+48

    6x+2x+8=48

    8x+8=48
    -8=-8
    8x = 40
    8

    x=5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman View Post
    I know. I always do that when I encounter a problem like that. I know what x is. Here's another one.

    2(x+4)=6(x+8)

    2x+8=6x+48

    2x+8=6x-6x+48

    6x+2x+8=48

    8x+8=48
    -8=-8
    8x = 40
    8

    x=5
    wrong.

    check your answer next time.

    2(5+4)=6(5+8)

    2(9)=6(13)

    18=78 incorrect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman View Post
    I know. I always do that when I encounter a problem like that. I know what x is. Here's another one.

    2(x+4)=6(x+8)

    2x+8=6x+48

    2x+8=6x-6x+48

    6x+2x+8=48

    8x+8=48
    -8=-8
    8x = 40
    8

    x=5
    Here is one of the correct ways to answer this problem:

    2(x+4)=6(x+8)

    2x+8=6x+48

    2x-2x+8=6x-2x+48

    8=4x + 48

    8-48=4x+48-48

    -40=4x
    4 4

    -10=x

    Check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini View Post
    0/9 = 0

    9/0 = undefined

    Who here can say why?
    Algebraically it is harder to explain and requires abstract algebra.

    If you have minimum knowledge of calculus, it is easy. Think of the graph of the function y=1/x. Now you know that as x approaches 0, y approaches infinity. If 1/0 was defined (meaning x can eventually be zero) then infinity would ironically be finite.

    For an elementary example, say you have 0 cookies to be divided amongst 9 people. That means that each person gets 0 cookies. If 0 people get 9 cookies then you can't define the question since there is no people to divide the cookies amongst in the first place (what kinda question is that dividing cookies to people? Not worth while)
    Last edited by Prolifical ENG; 08-31-2007 at 03:47 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini View Post
    Here is one of the correct ways to answer this problem:

    2(x+4)=6(x+8)

    2x+8=6x+48

    2x-2x+8=6x-2x+48

    8=4x + 48

    8-48=4x+48-48

    -40=4x
    4 4

    -10=x

    Check.
    Hmmm...Are you sure because from what I've learned, you always cancel out what's on the right side, not the left. I was taught to do that method in high school and in college.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG View Post
    Algebraically it is harder to explain and requires abstract algebra.

    If you have minimum knowledge of calculus, it is easy. Think of the graph of the function y=1/x. Now you know that as x approaches 0, y approaches infinity. If 1/0 was defined (meaning x can eventually be zero) then infinity would ironically be finite.

    For an elementary example, say you have 0 cookies to be divided amongst 9 people. That means that each person gets 0 cookies. If 0 people get 9 cookies then you can't define the question since there is no people to divide the cookies amongst in the first place (what kinda question is that? Not worth while)
    or you can just break it down like this. Check the following equations:

    0/9= 0 then 0 X 9= 0

    9/0= 0 then 0 X 0 = 9 wich is incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman View Post
    Hmmm...Are you sure because from what I've learned, you always cancel out what's on the right side, not the left. I was taught to do that method in high school and in college.
    check the answer. Replace the x's with -10.

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    ok here.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman View Post
    I know. I always do that when I encounter a problem like that. I know what x is. Here's another one.

    2(x+4)=6(x+8)

    2x+8=6x+48

    2x-6x+8=48

    -4x=48-8
    -4x=40
    -x=10
    x=-10
    Last edited by Prolifical ENG; 08-31-2007 at 03:56 PM.



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