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    Vigilantes target Iraq porn surfersBy Afif Sarhan in Baghdad

    Ibraheem Abdel-Qahar was tortured and made to drink his own urine for looking at pornographyThe Iraqi Aid Association (IAA), a Baghdad-based non-governmental organisation working with displacement, children and youth issues, says dozens of Iraqis have been killed after using the internet to access erotic sites.

    Fatah Ahmed, spokesperson for the IAA, said: "We have received information from many sources that militants are operating spies inside internet cafes just to find out who is browsing sites they have deemed offensive to Islam."

    Ahmed said most of the killings or abductions happen directly after the victims leave the internet cafes.

    "It is very serious because in an Islamic country in which violence is spreading on daily basis, people search for some entertainment and it is found today only on the internet," he said.

    "There are no places to go so young people are making friends via chatrooms which are now also being condemned by Islamic extremists."


    Torture, beatings

    Ibraheem Abdel-Qahar is a university student who gave up meeting friends and going to restaurants because of the violence and lack of security in Baghdad.

    Spending most of his free time alone, he turned to browsing the internet and soon began surfing online pornography. But that is a decision he now bitterly regrets.

    "They told me to take off all my clothes and handcuffed me. They started to beat me and use cigarettes to burn my legs"

    Ibraheem Abdel-QaharLate in May, Abdel-Qahar was kidnapped after leaving an internet cafe. He was blindfolded and taken to a house he believes to be on the outskirts of the capital.


    "Someone was sitting near me at the internet cafe and probably was an extremist spy. He saw when I was watching some erotic movies and when I left the place I was immediately taken in a car with three men," the 23-year-old engineering student said.

    He recalled that he was beaten with an iron bar and belt and forced to drink chicken blood and his own urine.

    "They told me to take off all my clothes and handcuffed me. They started to beat me and use cigarettes to burn my legs.

    "I was desperate and was shouting asking why they were doing that with me and after three hours of continuous torture they told me that it was because I was watching non-Muslim sites on the internet," he said.

    After enduring six days of torture, Abdel-Qahar says he was dropped near his house and warned that if he was found browsing internet pornography again he would be killed.

    He was also advised to seek salvation in the local mosque.

    The IAA has reported many cases like Abdel-Qahar's and have called on the government to protect victims by forcing internet cafes to guarantee privacy for their customers.

    The government has not yet responded and an official from the ministry of interior declined to comment.

    Freedom to browse

    During Saddam Hussein's era, internet browsing was controlled by the Iraqi Centre of Information which routinely blocked access to any pornographic sites as well as barred the use of popular chat clients.

    After Saddam's expulsion, however, thousands of Iraqis began to use Yahoo, MSNand Skype, to chat with friends and relatives.

    "The people who search for the internet entertainment just want to have some distraction in the middle of this hell and hypocritical society"

    Yehia Ala'a,
    brother of murdered internet cafe owner
    This was their only social outlet in an environment removed from the daily bombings and killings.


    The recent deregulation of browsing has enabled Iraq's younger generation to visit sites previously banned by the government.

    Muhammad Obeidi, owner of a private internet service, which offers cable systems to central districts of the capital, said: "People pay to use the internet and whatever is present inside has to be offered to them.

    "It is the responsibility of each family to look after their relatives and in what they are browsing into. Our job is just to offer a connection."

    But armed fighters have not spared internet cafe owners.

    In February, Fadhel Ibraheem and Youssef Ala'a, owners of an internet cafe in Baghdad's Palestine Street, were tortured and beheaded for reportedly allowing access to pornography sites.

    Yehia Ala'a, Youssef's brother said: "It wasn't my brother's fault. He was just offering the computers and internet access for people to use. The people who search for the internet entertainment just want to have some distraction in the middle of this hell and hypocritical society."

    Schools restrict access

    Current Iraqi laws and regulations do not restrict internet access and there are no sites that are barred.

    A spokesperson at the Iraqi Communications and Media Commission told Al Jazeera that they are looking at ways to regulate internet use in cafes and centres - but the lack of security has hindered their efforts.

    The spokesperson, who asked to remain anonymous, said schools and universities have started to block thousands of sites and the list of prohibited sites is growing.

    "We offer students internet access in the colleges but on the condition that the browsing is controlled and pornographic sites are blocked," Professor Hussam Abdallah, a teacher at Baghdad University, said.

    "We have also prohibited online chatting … we do not want to give extremists an excuse to attack us."

    come on cilva you know they were at this site you know how big you’ve gotten google your name what pops up you need to take some initiative and delete all the images on this site

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    ...and the us is the problem with bringing democracy to the middle east


    thats a sarcastic statement, but i believe the middle east is far behind the world in terms of freedom

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    no it wasent sarcastic i realy do think we need to remove the pornagraphic images from this site or the beating will countenu they will go down emencly if it dose
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    improve your spelling you fucking illiterate
    Posts by The Hound are signed TH.

    Quoting ≠ Agreement.

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    ieesh! sorry
    No it wasn’t sarcastic I really do think we need to remove the pornographic images from this site or the beating will continue they will go down immensely if it dose.

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    no, i was saying my comment was sarcastic

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    ohh now it makes sence


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    i mean, i was being sarcastic, but seriously, these middle east folks are dumb as fuck. The US is imperialistic and the evil empire and everything, but damn these dudes cant stop killing themselves. Immortal technique has a line like "if the us was invaded the streets of harlem would be up in arms" or something, talking about that the people fighting the us arent terrorists theyre just sticking up for their country and americans would do the same. Yeah, that was true, but these dudes are killing each other now. If youre one part of islam than the other sect is engaged in street warfare with you. Tribes are going at it. I mean, wtf, TRIBES???? They still have tribes!! They cant come to agreements on governments because theyre scared of letting dudes from the other side have power cause they think the sunnis will oppress the shia if they have the chance, and history would show that theyre probaly right. Shits ridiculous. They call us evil and blow up our buildings, but god damn at least we can get along.

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    this all is true but its a little of subject this is an anti pornography post im just using an event that hapends to be in the middle east to inforce my point
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    antipornography?

    Dane and rush limbaugh sittin in a tree, kissin and talkin bout immorality

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    You have a problem with the images on this site? Why did you post this in KTL?



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    will dreaming of jerry falwell secound coming





    no seriosly though thank god his dead
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    Quote Originally Posted by maestro wooz View Post
    i mean, i was being sarcastic, but seriously, these middle east folks are dumb as fuck. The US is imperialistic and the evil empire and everything, but damn these dudes cant stop killing themselves. Immortal technique has a line like "if the us was invaded the streets of harlem would be up in arms" or something, talking about that the people fighting the us arent terrorists theyre just sticking up for their country and americans would do the same. Yeah, that was true, but these dudes are killing each other now. If youre one part of islam than the other sect is engaged in street warfare with you. Tribes are going at it. I mean, wtf, TRIBES???? They still have tribes!! They cant come to agreements on governments because theyre scared of letting dudes from the other side have power cause they think the sunnis will oppress the shia if they have the chance, and history would show that theyre probaly right. Shits ridiculous. They call us evil and blow up our buildings, but god damn at least we can get along.
    What's wrong with tribes? If you think about it Tribes are the best form of democracy. If a family doesn't like what the tribe is doing, they break off and form their own tribe.

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    just another division amongst people

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    Quote Originally Posted by maestro wooz View Post
    i mean, i was being sarcastic, but seriously, these middle east folks are dumb as fuck. The US is imperialistic and the evil empire and everything, but damn these dudes cant stop killing themselves. Immortal technique has a line like "if the us was invaded the streets of harlem would be up in arms" or something, talking about that the people fighting the us arent terrorists theyre just sticking up for their country and americans would do the same. Yeah, that was true, but these dudes are killing each other now. If youre one part of islam than the other sect is engaged in street warfare with you. Tribes are going at it. I mean, wtf, TRIBES???? They still have tribes!! They cant come to agreements on governments because theyre scared of letting dudes from the other side have power cause they think the sunnis will oppress the shia if they have the chance, and history would show that theyre probaly right. Shits ridiculous. They call us evil and blow up our buildings, but god damn at least we can get along.
    Come on dude, you need to study the Middle East man...you don't have a clue how the dynamics of this society works. Don't say something that ignorant, it only shows your criticisms are backed by little knowledge in the field. I'm not trying to diss or school you, but seriously, pick up some books on the Middle East man...that's not even close to reality.

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