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    Quote Originally Posted by lateshowhost View Post
    ^^ are you sure about that? i thought steroids - in various forms - have been around since 1890s.
    this is true


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    Regardless of whether or not he deserves the record, he has it. Barry Bonds is THE all time home run king! What if you had never heard about bonds and steroids? What if Hank Aaron was on the juice? How do you know he wasnt? What if Shawn Merriman of the San Diego Chargers never tests positive agsin, and breaks the sack record in the NFL? I'll bet you people will still say he don't deserve it. You can't blame the players for doing anything neccessary to be a better player. You blame the league in which they played for not testing.
    Btw, the numbers of superstar atheletes taking HGH right now is probably astronomical.

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    Just as many pitchers were taking roids as the hitters.So as far as im concernd its an even playin field.

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    there's no book with substancial circumstantial evidence on hank aaron taking steroids. you CAN blame players for what they did because they made a choice. no one shoved the needle in their ass. did cal ripken, derek jeter, and tony gwinn take roids? what about mariano rivera, joh smoltz, and greg maddux? why didnt they take them like everyone else?

    its only an even playing field if every single player is on HGH. i dont believe thats the case. you guys are making a lot of bold statements. what evidence, even circumstantial do you have that just about everyone is taking HGH? what evidence do you have that babe ruth and hank aaron took HGH. lets deal with whats in front of us and not start making silly assumptions.

    yes, the commisioner and owners indeed share the blame for this right along with the players but dont EVEN try to give the players a pass. the owners did not make them shoot up. steroids was both the players and the leagues dirty little secret. both parties were keeping their mouth shut and raking in the doe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateshowhost View Post
    ^^ are you sure about that? i thought steroids - in various forms - have been around since 1890s.
    i doubt human growth hormone was around in ruth's time.
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    Babe Ruth had a pot belly.....Babe Ruth was also a great pitcher. Babe Ruths body did not drastically change in his mid to late 30's. Hank Aaron was the definition of a consistent, steady homerun hitter. I dont think he ever hit more than 40 in a season. He just hit about 30 year in and out.
    Bonds' body change is the thing that seperates them. If a pitcher who was on roids broke Cy Youngs(or is it Walter Johnson) all time wins record...say three did it in a span of five years...well that puts up a red flag.

    Its not far fetched.

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    all of this is moot.

    A-rod's gonna break the record in 10 years anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLUTONIUM View Post
    did cal ripken, derek jeter, and tony gwinn take roids? what about mariano rivera, joh smoltz, and greg maddux.
    I don't KNOW. Neither do you. You also don't KNOW that Bonds took them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERICHWV View Post
    I don't KNOW. Neither do you. You also don't KNOW that Bonds took them.
    The evidence against Bonds is strong. His affiliation with BALCO alone raises a ton of speculation. Couple that with the body transformation and you have a case.

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    If It Wasnt For Steriods Baseball Would Be Boring....And What The Fuck Does Steriods Do Anyways...It Doesnt Improve Your Game....It Only Makes You Stronger....It Takes Maddddd Skill to Hit The Ball Just Right Trust Dat

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickyTooch View Post
    The evidence against Bonds is strong. His affiliation with BALCO alone raises a ton of speculation. Couple that with the body transformation and you have a case.
    True

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaXiMus Da MaNtis View Post
    If It Wasnt For Steriods Baseball Would Be Boring....And What The Fuck Does Steriods Do Anyways...It Doesnt Improve Your Game....It Only Makes You Stronger....It Takes Maddddd Skill to Hit The Ball Just Right Trust Dat
    Yeo, it's the hardest thing to do in sports. (Hitting The baseball perfect on a 89 mph slider)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaXiMus Da MaNtis View Post
    If It Wasnt For Steriods Baseball Would Be Boring....And What The Fuck Does Steriods Do Anyways...It Doesnt Improve Your Game....It Only Makes You Stronger....It Takes Maddddd Skill to Hit The Ball Just Right Trust Dat
    its gives you strength which means its easier to carry the bat which improves your bat speed and your impact through the zone. they also help you to recover from injury and fatigue.

    if they did nothing to help your game, players wouldnt risk their reputations using them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PLUTONIUM View Post
    its gives you strength which means its easier to carry the bat which improves your bat speed and your impact through the zone. they also help you to recover from injury and fatigue.

    if they did nothing to help your game, players wouldnt risk their reputations using them.

    First Off If You Cant Easily handle The Bat You Shouldnt Even Made It past Double aa Let Alone Triple AAA

    Second Players Didnt Take Them Becuase They Were Injured....Thats Not Even Relevant

    And Bat Speed Doesnt Have Anything To Do With Hitting Home Runs ....Well It Does But You Can Hit The Ball As Fast As You Want But Without The Precise Precision Your Speed Aint Shit


    All It Did Was Give Them xtra Strength Thats It ....

    And Like I Said If It Wasnt For Steriods Baseball Would Be Boring
    They Were In A Ressession State In The Early Ninties Late 80's And Needed A Boost In Revanue ....Shit I Wouldnt Doubt If It Was Fixxed Like That And The Commissioner Knew The Whole Time

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    Bat speed has a huge effect on how you hit a ball,and if you are stronger, than the bat feels lighter, and you can get around on pitches you normally wouldnt be able too.

    Taking steroids is a HUGE advantage for hitters.

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