Ice Water - Polluted Wisdom

[venex]

haha

shows what i wish i was listening to at the time

mind is always on the wu, even when the wu be fuckin' up

I like your mindstate

[LuckyTheWonderDog]

AZ presents... Begetz was crap too.

any ya'll checked out this horrible LOOKING Immortal Technique presents...

i forget, some Brooklyn dude nobody i know seems to be down with.

Streetlife i thought was at least half-excellent... the rest half-assed.

If it's the Immortal Technique presents Poison Pen album you're talking about, then I heard it was fuckin nice. Poison Pen is a quality mc.

[mAlAkAz]

don't forget the Sunz Of Man Presents Hell RAZAH & 4TH dISCIPLE (Freedom Of Speech) that CD was dope too, probably one of the best on that X-Ray/cleopatra label

[crass]

Uh did anybody listen to Lex Diamond Story and expect the Ice Water album to not totally suck?

[GENERAL WISE]

Uh did anybody listen to Lex Diamond Story and expect the Ice Water album to not totally suck?

I can see why you think Lex Diamond Story is a sub-par album, and because it is Raekwon's latest album, you don't want to see another album like that in Rae's future efforts.

This however is not the case, his Vatican mixtapes, in any Hip Hop fan's opinion, have been extremely enjoyable and are successful in that they created hype for Only Built For Cuban Linx Part II, Plus THEY ARE RECENT.

I don't see how you could have picked (randomly) one of Rae's worst efforts and associated it with Polluted Water.

If it was Rae's latest material, then through inductive reasoning you can say "Uh did anybody listen to Lex Diamond Story and expect the Ice Water album to not totally suck?"

But thats not the case, therefore you cannot say that because Lex Diamond is bad (Lex Diamond being a NOT-SO-RECENT album), Raekwon's current projects are going to mimic the wackness of the Lex Diamond Story.

Actually, Lex Diamond Story isn't wack at all, but if you think so who am I to judge.

[crass]

It don't vibe, man, and I can't jive.

Nah man, I'm not talking about Rae. I'm saying that Ice Water was weak on LDS, and that if people didn't dig them on that LP, then why would they expect their LP to be on a different style?

[GENERAL WISE]

It don't vibe, man, and I can't jive.

Nah man, I'm not talking about Rae. I'm saying that Ice Water was weak on LDS, and that if people didn't dig them on that LP, then why would they expect their LP to be on a different style?

Thats cool, I just hope that they leave Ice Water off Only Built For Cuban Linx II, that needs to be a Raekwon Feat. Wu-Tang affair only.

[Kriszy Substance]

Apologies for interrupting what seems to be a well informed discussion...but I have a few questions and am hoping someone can help me out:

1. I haven't heard any of this Vatican mixtape stuff...give me a little run down if you can please (last mixtape type thing I got was that Heron Only proj) Does the Vatican mixtape stuff have dj's shouting over and in between tracks? And also, what do you mean by it hyping for OB4CL2? Are there new tracks and shit or what? (by the way, thanks HeyZeus for the Ras Kass input in that other thread).

I guess the second isn't really a question but more a jumbled thought...ok, so it seems a lot of people are not feeling this Icewater stuff at all...for a few reasons. I haven't even checked out any of their songs so I suppose I should do my research, which I will...when does this album drop? Also, I find it interesting that people are wondering why Rae did this and are calling it commercial or whatever...but then you see that interview with RZA where he said Rae was kind of the bad guy in charge so to speak...and Rae was calling something some "Black Eyed Peas" shit...and now I have no idea what to think, which is cool....

[GENERAL WISE]

Apologies for interrupting what seems to be a well informed discussion...but I have a few questions and am hoping someone can help me out:

1. I haven't heard any of this Vatican mixtape stuff...give me a little run down if you can please (last mixtape type thing I got was that Heron Only proj) Does the Vatican mixtape stuff have dj's shouting over and in between tracks? And also, what do you mean by it hyping for OB4CL2? Are there new tracks and shit or what? (by the way, thanks HeyZeus for the Ras Kass input in that other thread).

I guess the second isn't really a question but more a jumbled thought...ok, so it seems a lot of people are not feeling this Icewater stuff at all...for a few reasons. I haven't even checked out any of their songs so I suppose I should do my research, which I will...when does this album drop? Also, I find it interesting that people are wondering why Rae did this and are calling it commercial or whatever...but then you see that interview with RZA where he said Rae was kind of the bad guy in charge so to speak...and Rae was calling something some "Black Eyed Peas" shit...and now I have no idea what to think, which is cool....

Well, the Vatican Mixtapes have been Rae's (some would say) best mixtapes for Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II.

2 are already released:

The Vatican Mixtape V1
The Da Vinci Code: The Vatican Mixtape V2

and one is going to be released soon w/ Rae saying that in includes unreleased tracks from the 93'-95'

House of Wax: The Vatican Mixtape V3

I would say download them (because they are quite expensive for Mixtapes) and they do have DJ's (Clue etc)
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_m/...0&Go.y=0&Go=Go


If you haven't heard Ras Kass' Soul on Ice, I suggest you check that out. IMHO it is a 5 mic classic and it has a cult following, although you might be offended by Nature of the Threat.




This Ice Water album is pretty good for a mainstream hip hop listener, but it doesn't do anything outside the norm, therefore a lot of people including me at times (Elitist Backpackers/ Nerd hip hop fans) It is a hit miss album and Rae is trying to do his thing to get these dudes some mainstream attention rather than the usual internet hip hop fan's attention.

[Kriszy Substance]

Actually, Lex Diamond Story isn't wack at all, but if you think so who am I to judge.

That made me laugh. Where are the barfing smilies? lol. I love HeyZeus's entertaining and passionate opinions.

Thanks for the info. Have not heard Soul on Ice but I will check it out with that kind of talk behind it. Muchas Gracias.

Icewater...still mixed feelings but I will most likely get it.

[pep]

offtopic (cuz theres not much to be said about this polluted crap LP)....

yo ben do you have some info about that animated gif in your sig. i talkin' bout this one with baby-u fuckin' with rza. ive seen it forst time and i just wonder how it ends up ;]......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw-GQBNJ3nA..there you go homie...

[Shyheim69]

im surprised alot of people actually admitted that this album was garbage. alot of people on this msg board are wu dick riders and whatever that has their name attached to it they say that its a classic or that its fire. So when everyone actually addmitted that this album was garbage i was very surprised.

I guess wu finally released an album soooooo shitty that even the biggest dick rider had no choice to say that it sucks.

[Jeru]

im surprised alot of people actually admitted that this album was garbage. alot of people on this msg board are wu dick riders and whatever that has their name attached to it they say that its a classic or that its fire. So when everyone actually addmitted that this album was garbage i was very surprised.

I guess wu finally released an album soooooo shitty that even the biggest dick rider had no choice to say that it sucks.

Where you hear when Freemurda's album dropped?LOL

[Shyheim69]

forget the post i made earlier. there is a whole fucking thread dedicated to how good this garbage album is. i cant believe these people.

http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41265

[LuckyTheWonderDog]

Ha ha. Dunno what the final cover art is/was, but if they used this, then the 'Raekwon presents Ice Water' thing is taken even further.