shabazz the disciple says this on "audiobiography" from hell razah/blue sky black death collabo. was wondering what this could mean.
"rae and ghost gave our style to the enemy"
shabazz the disciple says this on "audiobiography" from hell razah/blue sky black death collabo. was wondering what this could mean.
I am educatingly guessing that Shabazz is saying that ever since Raekwon and Ghostface started rapping, others have been biting their shit. So its like a good/bad thing that Rae and Ghost got on the mic because they have ill rhymes, yet the enemies take their style. (By enemy it could mean mainstream rappers, whack rappers, etc.)
Nobody took their style.No offense but why would they?
At least ppl took the slang, u don't know that...shit like starting with yo yo yo or saying ice...
bring back begongo!!
True that @ the slang.Originally Posted by wera
I dont think WU invented "yo yo yo" or "ice"
"Borough hopping, copping bricks, bags, burners and kicks City slickers, circling the strip, working them tricks"
-Rebel INS the GREAT!!!
they were the first to use the term Ice in rap, plus some other things, like biters....correct me if I'm wrong and prove it with evidence....Ghost said Rae was the first with starting his verses with yo yo yo....I dont think WU invented "yo yo yo" or "ice"
on an entirely dirrerent subject, anybody know exactly how many time's rae says "yea" at the beginning of rushing elephants? i counted 25 but i could be wrong.
thats it "yo yo yo" thats what the enemy stole , man get the fuk out .,..
i dont know anybody that sounds like raekwon or ghost,
sheek looch sometimes reminds me of ghost cause of the whiney voice
nobody took shit .
They invented "biters"????? Damn, thats OOOOOOLD bboy slang.
Teachin Da SeedZ
Maybe people would bite because theyve got the greatest styles of rhyming.Nobody took their style.
Just a thought
Compared to 36 chambers and forever, 8D is weak.
BUT... Compared to everything else in the radio, Wu-Tang is still lightyears ahead.
lol, no they werent the first to use the term Ice in hip hop, i dont know who it was but i know it wasnt them, i almost pissed my pants when i saw the shit about "biters", people been using that shit since the 80's maybe before, and "yo yo yo yo", lmao, come on man, again, people been doin that shit since the 80s.
rae & ghost are good man, but shit, get off thier dicks.
Yea, I could never tell who Wu was talking about when they talked about people biting their shit... I mean, I've never seen/heard anybody using their kung-fu style lyrics.
The only thing that remotley sounds close to that in my head is the fact that O.C. sounds and looks like Ghost, but that probably doesn't even count..
ok, I now know what it is!!
they were the first two flashing with all those drinks and the first with wallies
anybody?
ok i was listening to this earlier today and my mistake the line is "rae and ghost gave MY style to the enemy."
this makes me think somehow they (rae+ghost) gave shabazz the disciple's style to the enemy. which is even more confusing. here are the lyrics for the whole track i got from chamber musik. there's more about the biting, but i think they (sunz of man) think they were bitten, not the wu
[Hell Razah]
It all started with Preme
Back in '91, fresh on the scene
Mad Mob was the team of our Red Hook dream
We used to gun sling to get CREAM off of crack fiends
In the hallway, rollin' weed, the sunflower seeds
Thirteen when I lost my moms
Fourteen I got locked with Twin, we when to Spafford then
Fifteen they took one of my men, Big Glen
In the building, back then my pain began
Traybag had the fame of the pen, he must of seen I could win
I used to breakdance, the mad little spins
So he taught me and Sunny to write
Up in my lab late nights, rollin' dice, him, Supreme and Mike
We was live and direct to Da Last Future
For my first rhyme, and now 4th my producer
Had a style that my projects wasn't used to
Started hangin' with them drug dealers and them boosters
Up in John J rappin' in the school hallway
I got mad ass, even ask Foxy and Gav
Had the hood on smash then I linked with Bazz
We used to build and front, dazz' about fuckin' with Wu
Me and 7th did "Livin' In Hell"
Pressed up it independent, not knowin' if a record'd would sell
Rae and Ghost made "Heaven & Hell", while we was hearin' it
Meanwhile we thinkin' it was all coincidence
"Mental Combat", the b-side, the style: battle rap
I was rated X, next heard 'Meth vs. Chef'
Not to notice we was snake bitten
Sunz of Man did this track with the RZA "As It Was Written"
And then Nas came out with "It Was Written"
Same time "Verbal Intercourse" started hittin'
[Interlude: Hell Razah]
Basically I see it like... you know?
Like when we reflect light... youknowI'msayin'?
I expected to shine... youknowI'msayin'?
So, what it is is like a reflection of what we did, knowI'msayin'?
So like those was like little seeds of shit that we did
We planted and they didn't even know that we was plantin'
You know this beautful harvest...
[Shabazz the Disciple]
I see it, me and Preme back, young enough
I see it...
It all began at the age of sixteen
Me and my brothers Rah and Sha had a million dollar scheme
Runnin' with Kline at the time, we was gettin' that CREAM
Goin' hard under the buildings with Black and Supreme
When the scheme failed a teen went to jail, Rah got murdered
I was facin' three to nine when the jury read the verdict
On trial for a hundred and forty-four crack vials
Suited up in court, wiz pregnant with my first child
Beat the case, felt rap and started pursuin' my dream
I was the nicest in the hood, journey brought me the CREAM
The first song I recorded was "Make it or Die Trying"
In '91, way before "Get Rich or Die Trying"
We formed the Mad Mob, I filmed "Party With a Tec"
In all my videos I always rocked a bulletproof vest
Of course my Pops, Uncle Mookie got shot in the dead
And Kline Sr. and Supreme just got locked in the feds
The late eighties was Hades hip-hop, save a nigga
Got discovered by the RZA, debuted with Gravediggaz
Platinum out the gate for my first verse on "Diary"
Number one on Hot 9 for three weeks, the world admired me
Toured the Holy West with the Clan, was well respected
Me and Priest got a demo deal with Atlantic Records
We both had a plan to introduce the fam
We featured Prodigal and Razah, the birth of the Sunz of Man
Rae and Ghost gave my style to the enemy
I left the situation, signed a contract with Penalty
After "Crime Saga" and "Death be the Penalty"
I left the label, released "Street Parables" independently
Was crowned the underground king of Europe for my show
Big Pun told me "Crime Saga" inspired his flow
In '96 I told Big Lez I'm God Son on RapCity
In '98, Nas tatted the shit across his belly
[Outro: Hell Razah]
They knew what they was doin', like...
We wanted to be different, that's what made us who we was
KnowwhatI'msayin'? We didn't wanna do the shit that the program said to do
KnowI'msayin'? So we went against the system
Everybody went with the system
That's what brought Sunz of Man together as a group
Every last individual spit some intellectual street shit
Some deep true poetic project crazy shit
[Outro 2: samples, repeat to fade]
"Since a seed" "I have a dream" -> KRS-One
"The battles, the tears" -> Guru "It's in the streets"
"Since a seed" "I have a dream" -> KRS-One
"The battles, the tears, licenses and promises" -> Guru
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