respected rappers,that are wack in your opinion.

[DR. NICK RIVIERA]

saying miss jackson sux is like saying cunninglyst don't have any good songs

[Sam the Seed]

Aesop Rock - boring, just crazy vocab and people thinks he's smart, WACK
(post Co Flow) El-P - whiney, not clever anymore
alot of 2Pac's stuff
The Game - not that hard a dude, opposite of charismatic
Kanye West
Frukwan
Fat Joe
Immortal Technique - obnoxious attitude, one-sided in his politics
Necro- gimmicky, no substance
Little Brother
Cage - Used to be one of my favorite backpackers, now he's ass
Lloyd Banks - people said he was the MC in G-Unit, I bet Fabolous could eat this guy
Masta Killa - when his style works, its awesome, and thats rare.
Post-Roc Jay-Z - Says nothing interesting, just enjoys being the NY King
last 2 Eminem albums were beyond wack.
Lil Wayne - he's like your goofy backup nigga that says wild shit, not a real rapper, just a Spliff Starr.
MF Doom - boring, punchlines aren't funny, no substance besides talking about being depressed and Subroc dying.
T.I.
Gucci Mane - yeah, I know he sucks, but I live in the South and people really consider him raw

[cap]

Post-Roc Jay-Z - Says nothing interesting, just enjoys being the NY King

post roc?
roc-a-fella is still going strong man.

[KLIION JENSEN]

How the fuck is BOB a pop song?

explain how B.O.B. is a hardcore grimey hip hop record as opposed to a pop record ?? you cant do it, because its a pop song, its designed to be catchy, dancable, and to appeal to as many people as possible, thats called pop music...

saying miss jackson sux is like saying cunninglyst don't have any good songs

(1) i never said Miss Jackson sucked, i just said it was a pop song, which it is, in my opinion, but if you believe it to be hardcore dirty grimey hip hop, then we obviously have a different opinion on what is considered hardcore & what is pop...

(2) in my opinion they dont, but then again i have'nt heard much of theirs, but i did'nt like what i heard, sorry...

[DR. NICK RIVIERA]

^^^^^^no problem, my bad.

[YungSunny]

Aesop Rock - boring, just crazy vocab and
MF Doom - boring, punchlines aren't funny, no substance besides talking about being depressed and Subroc dying.

What's your idea of a good rapper then?
You have to be funny to be a rapper or what?
I'm not even gonna touch that "substance" comment.

[KLIION JENSEN]

Post one of your songs/rhymes then.
You have a lot to prove right now.

think you got the wrong thread, whats the dudes rhymes got to do with anyone else being wack ??

[YungSunny]

Mighta fact I am in the wrong thread I thought this was the rappers you think you're better than thread. :O

[Ritter]

explain how B.O.B. is a hardcore grimey hip hop record as opposed to a pop record ?? you cant do it, because its a pop song, its designed to be catchy, dancable, and to appeal to as many people as possible, thats called pop music...

It's not designed to be catchy, dancable, it's a political track more than anything. And a BANGER

[KLIION JENSEN]

It's not designed to be catchy, dancable, it's a political track more than anything. And a BANGER

i understand that its political, which gives more fuel to the idea that its a pop song, if it was not designed to be catchy or dancable, it would'nt have that catchy sing-a-long hook, and it would'nt be up-tempo like it is, yeah its a banger, but its still a pop song...

[Ghost In The 'Lac]

Whats the point in making a song that isnt catchy? Anybody can do that.

[KLIION JENSEN]

yeah, & anyone can make a catchy song, Souljah Boy, Lil Wayne for instance....

[Ritter]

OutKast is many thing, but never pop. Especially not Ms Jackson.

I understand you have an opinion that you don't like OutKast, and that's cool.

But they were never, and will never be pop. Roses (The Love Below) is the closest thing to pop, but more like funk. That's just a wrong opinion. I'm not hating or whatever, I'm just saying, you can't call OutKast pop.

Two songs that are among my favorite hip hop tracks all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Bstrp8Ck4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEyP_IGv9I4

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[GRANDMASSIVE.]

Lil Wayne

[GhettoGnom]

yeah, & anyone can make a catchy song, Souljah Boy

Soulja Boy never made a catchy song.

i understand that its political, which gives more fuel to the idea that its a pop song

Dumbest statement I've EVER heard. Hip Hop has always been more political than rap. One of the greatest parts of Hip Hop is the raw, straight from the liver, political criticizing. Wtf do that got to do with pop?

explain how B.O.B. is a hardcore grimey hip hop record as opposed to a pop record ?? you cant do it, because its a pop song, its designed to be catchy, dancable, and to appeal to as many people as possible, thats called pop music...

1. It can be Hip Hop without being "hardcore grimey hip hop". And thank God for that.

2. Read Shizzahs post.

3. All music is made to appeal to as many as possible, without losing the "sound" their looking for. And the "sound" of the track is not your typical Britney-pop-sounding sound. It's totally original and creative.. TRY to find me a pop song that sounds ANYTHING like that.