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    the fact that the characters who particpated in the final act are skeptical of this plans' success and that rorshach left his journal detail the plan with the right wing newspaper.

    it's much more explicit in the novel, the movie omits a crucial scene where manhattan explains to veidt that his plan is futile because...nothing ever ends.

    the movie omits alot that may have made the political subtext more palatable to you.

    about to watch the black freighter/ under the hood dvd.

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    "I hope the era of stupid movies by comic books are finally over."

    Your kidding right? Its going until 2012....u have Thor, Ironman II, maybe another Hulk, SHIELD/Nick Fury, reboot of Daredevil & Fantastic 4, reboot of Superman, Spider Man 4, Capt America...Avengers

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    Quote Originally Posted by vay727 View Post
    the fact that the characters who particpated in the final act are skeptical of this plans' success and that rorshach left his journal detail the plan with the right wing newspaper.

    it's much more explicit in the novel, the movie omits a crucial scene where manhattan explains to veidt that his plan is futile because...nothing ever ends.

    the movie omits alot that may have made the political subtext more palatable to you.

    about to watch the black freighter/ under the hood dvd.
    im gettin that saturday...lemme know what its like.

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    ^^^it's good, but not spectacular (i dl'ed it)

    the under the hood is the best part but it's pretty cheesy, black freighter is cool although i question using an anime style for this...i wouldn't buy it imo, i would've been disappointed had it not been free.

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    o ok so screw that..eloels. shit ive read it all already.

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    ^^^^^nah, it's still cool to watch. even tho we all read both in the comics
    bring back begongo!!

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    Missing scene
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    guess we all know why they left it out.


    nothing really important in it. just kinda some extra footage to me.
    The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

    People are too stupid to effectively conspire to do anything, but not too stupid to come up with conspiracy theories.

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    makes me look forward to the deluxe director's cut with the black freighter/under the hood footage integrated into the narrative though

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    ^^^^yeah, the whole comic book is going to be in it
    bring back begongo!!

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    For those that think the Black Freighter storyline isn't important (which was VERY faithfully done in its animated form) have really missed the point. The themes in that "comic within a graphic novel" tie directly to the storyline itself thematically.

    Higher lifeforms are generally giving it props however, which is refreshing in this age of rehashed film making.

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    i guess i dont know much about it. still havent gotten to the novel, busy with school for another couple weeks.

    how does it add to it?
    The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

    People are too stupid to effectively conspire to do anything, but not too stupid to come up with conspiracy theories.

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    I saw it just now. It left somewhat of a bad taste in my mouth. I don't hate it, but something just isn't right about it. Here is my obsecenely long over-analysis.

    AND YES I'VE READ THE GRAPHIC NOVEL. It's my favorite book as a matter of fact. I felt the beginning was very well done. The movie was going very well, until about half-way through.

    Here's my random thoughts about the movie:

    I felt the action was overdone. The entire premise behind Watchmen was the de-hero-fication of superheroes. Making them seem like normal people. Their onscreen superstrength and agility made them look like actual superheroes which I felt worked against all the character development and humanization Alan Moore worked so hard to achieve.

    The way the The Black Freighter story intertwined with the Watchmen storyline was genius, but honestly, there is no way they could have fit it into the movie. I'm glad they didn't attempt it.

    The chapter where Jon goes over his background is one of my favorite parts of any book, ever. The way it was read really made you look at time itself in a different way. I think the movie could have done a better job with this part.

    The worst part of this movie for me though, was the acting. The acting was some of the stalest I've ever seen. It's hard to feel any connection with any of the characters when they're so bland. A lot of the dialogue was read too quickly without and emphasis, and important parts of the storyline were lost in Rorschach's incoherent garbling.

    Rorschach was bad-ass though. Got damn. He did a good job with his character. The only problem I have with it though, was like i said, some of the most important plot-points sounded like this: "ASJJFKJKAHFJAF" "No, Rorscach, it's all I know!" "SFHLASHFAHSF. Daniel, we need to zfafklasjfl"

    Edward Blake was well-portrayed.

    I wanted to see Rorschach kill the cigarette on the guy's eyeball. Not bite a chunk of his flesh off. Extremely minor complaint.

    The art direction was superb. Dave Gibbons should be proud.

    Laurie was hot as fuck. Shitty acting. Honestly, you guys liked the acting in this movie? It felt like they were reading a copy of Watchmen orally. Her especially. And her mother.

    A lot of people left the theatre half-way through. This is their own fault for having the attention span of a corn flake; but at the same time, if you haven't read the book, I don't know why you want to sit there and listen to the stories of people you couldn't care less about. Their terrible acting made it difficult.

    I can't blame them for everything. There was honestly way too much story to pack into three hours. They had to find a happy medium between pleasing fans of the novel, and pleasing the average movie-goer. The action scenes are probably what kept the average movie-goer there for the entirety of the movie.

    Dreiburg did a good job.

    Ozymandias is a bitch in this movie. I know that was the idea, but they could have made him a little more.....manly. It makes me think of that Rorschach line in his journal: "Possibly homosexual? Must remember to investigate further." hahaha

    I don't blame them for leaving the squid-thing out. That would have meant the inclusion of the missing-artist part or at the very least, another ten minutes of dialogue.

    A little too much dick. It doesn't really bother me personally, but the immature teenager/hambeast sitting in front of me couldn't help but giggle every time a blue knob was barely seen in the distance.

    I like how faithful they stayed to the novel in terms of dialogue. I was lip-syncing all of Rorschach's journal entries.

    If the acting was well-done, the majority of my long-winded nitpicking would be idle, because it would have worked out. But the acting killed it; I'm sorry.

    So, if you enjoyed the movie, I'm glad; but I personally thought it could have been so much more.

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    damn after watching the graphic novel on dvd I really want to see this movie and how they decided to make it
    awesome storyline


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