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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Armz View Post
    The Occult
    Through their powers of flying and invisibility, the Jinn are the chief component in occult activities. Voodoo, Black magic, Poltergeists, Witchcraft and Mediums can all be explained through the world of the Jinn. Likewise, so can the illusions and feats of magicians. Because the Jinn can traverse huge distances over a matter of seconds, their value to magicians is great. In return for helping them in their magic, the Jinns often ask for the magicians to sell their souls to them and even to Iblis. Thus the magicians take the Jinn and Iblis as lords besides Allah. In our day, some of the feats performed by magicians and entertainers are without doubt from the assistance of the Jinn. Making the Statue of Liberty disappear, flying across the
    Grand Canyon
    and retrieving a ship from the Bermuda Triangle[7], have all been done by the Jewish magician David Copperfield. There is NO way that a man could do such things without the assistance of the Jinn. It would not be surprising therefore, if David Copperfield had sold his soul to Iblis himself. Because of their involvement with the Jinn, and its result in shirk, the Prophet (saws) said: "The prescribed punishment for the magician is that he be executed by the sword" [8]. Some may argue that this is barbaric, but if, the likes of David Copperfield truly had powers, then they could just put their heads back on again!!
    One of the most frequent activities associated with the Jinn, is fortune telling. Before the advent of the Prophet (saws) fortune-tellers and soothsayers were wide spread.

    These people would use their associates from the Jinn to find out about the future. The Jinns would go to the lowest heaven and listen to the Angels conversing amongst themselves about events of the Future which they heard from Allah. The Jinns would then inform the fortune-tellers. This is why before the time of the Prophet (saws) many fortune-tellers were very accurate in their predictions. However, upon the Prophet's arrival the heavens were guarded intensely by the Angels, and any Jinn who tried to listen was attacked by meteors (shooting stars):
    "And We have guarded it (the heavens) from every accursed devil, except one who is able to snatch a hearing and he is pursued by a brightly burning flame"
    (Surah Al-Hijr 15:18)
    The Prophet (saws) also said: "They (the Jinn) would pass the information back down until it reaches the lips of a magician or forrtune-teller Sometimes a meteor would overtake them before they could pass it on. If they passed it on before being struck, they would add to it a hundred lies" [9]. Thus, it is clear from this as to how fortune-tellers get predictions of the future right. It is also evident as to why they get so many wrong. Men like Nostradamus[10] are an example, as some of his predictions of the future were correct whilst many were completely wrong. Unfortunately, the amount of fortune telling which occurs amongst the Muslims is also increasing. By visiting Muslim lands such as
    Morocco, one is able to see as to how much inter Jinn-fortune-teller activity there really is. If you look up at the sky on a clear night in Morocco
    , you will see the heavens ablaze with shooting stars! A clear display of the devils being chased away from the heavens.
    Fortune-tellers also operate through the Qareen. The Qareen is the Jinn companion which is assigned to every human being. It is this Jinn which whispers to our base desires and constantly tries to divert us from righteousness. The Prophet (saws) said: "Everyone of you has been assigned a companion from the Jinn. The companions asked: Even you O' Messenger of Allah? And the Prophet replied: Even me, except that Allah has helped me against him and he has submitted. Now he only tells me to do good" [11]. Because the Qareen is with a person all his life, it knows all that has happened to the person from the cradle to the grave. By making contact with the Qareen, the fortune-teller is thus able to make out that it is he who knows about the person. He looks in his crystal ball or the palm of a person and proceeds to amaze him with knowledge which no one else knows[12]. The severity of going to a fortune-teller is such that the Prophet (saws) said: "The prayer of one who approaches a fortune-teller and asks him about anything, will not be accepted for forty days or nights" [13] and: "Whosoever approaches a fortune-teller and believes in what he says, has disbelieved in what was revealed to Muhammed" [14]
    The effects of the Jinn are not just limited to fortune-tellers. Other activities such as oujia boards and seances, which are used to contact the dead, are manipulated by the Jinn. 'Are you there Charlie? Speak to us Charlie!!' are the sort of words spoken by anxious relatives (names are obviously different!) seeking to make contact with their loved ones. And it is when the Jinn starts to talk and communicate as 'Charlie', that the people are truly fooled[15].


    One of the biggest manipulations of the Jinn is through visions. Through these visions the Jinns are more likely to lead people away from the worship of Allah then any other way. When a person sees a vision in front of his eyes it is something which is very hard to explain away. Only by having knowledge of the world of the Jinn and conviction in Allah, can a person fight such a trial. The countless numbers of visions of Jesus Christ and the Virgin Mary over the centuries has been a popular choice for the devils. It almost seems as if leading Christians astray is the most easiest trick for the Jinns! Not only are Christians fooled by these visions, but often the Jinns possess and begin to talk from their voices. To the Christians this is known as the tongues of the Angels and thus a proof for their faith. However, the amount of unintelligible nonsense and rubbish which is heard is a clear proof that this is in fact the tongues of the devils! For other people, visions of their parents or relatives are commonplace. By taking on the form of peoples parents, the Jinns can convince people that the souls of dead people still mix with the people of the earth. This is why so many people believe in ghosts.
    The onslaught of satanic visions has also hit the Muslims. Many Muslims claim to have seen visions of the Prophet Muhammed (saws) and even Allah! By doing this, Shaytan is able to lead astray the weak Muslims. Through such visions, Muslims are often told that the commands of Islam are not applicable to them. The Jinns tell them that Prayer, Fasting, Hajj etc. are not obligatory for them. It is a great deception and unfortunately one which has been very effective. The extent of satanic visions still continues to this day. The recent death of Diana Princess of
    Wales sparked off great love and adoration for this woman. In fact the grief of the British people was such, that it was as if Diana was something divine. No sooner had the mourning of Diana reached its peak, that visions of her were already being seen at HamptonCourtPalace
    ! If these visions did occur, the desire of Iblis and his army of Jinn to capitalise on this event, was evident. Such visions are clear attempts by Iblis to lead mankind away from the path of Allah [16].
    The world of the Jinn is one which is both sinister and intriguing. By knowing of this world we can explain many of the mysteries and issues which bother us. By doing this we can avoid the extremes which the people have gone to; nothing being more extreme then worshipping others besides Allah. By learning the Tawheed of Allah, we defend ourselves from these hidden allies of Iblis:
    "Indeed he (Iblis) and his tribe watch you from a position where you cannot see them"
    (Surah Al-A'raf 7:27)
    Maybe there is a Jinn sitting in the corner of your room right now, or even one behind you. If so, then how will you deal with this creation of Allah? Learn Islam properly and you will be able to deal with all of Allah's creation - and not just the Jinn. By becoming true Muslims and followers of Islam, the fear of Iblis, Jinns and anything else will leave us - nothing will touch the Believer unless Allah wills.
    Sounds like propaganda to demonize "pagan" cultures.

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    Yup. Another way to fool people into thinking that they need to rely on something outside of self and that any attempt to do for self though science of the self is of the devil, demons etc.

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    I have heard of the Jinn before but in a different context.

    The jinn are entities living on earth which are normally invisible to us. The name comes from an Arabic word meaning "to hide or conceal". They can be deceptive and influential. They are behind the UFO mystery as well as many other mysteries. Every culture shows their influence in its mythologies and religions.
    The Jinn have free will. Some are spiritually good while others are profoundly evil.
    They exist on the etheric plane which is more subtle than the dense physical plane visible to humans. The etheric plane is closely interconnected to the physical. Humans also exist at the etheric level because in some respects it gives rise to the physical. The etheric plane contains the "blueprints" for the physical world. Everything in the physical world has an "etheric double". The etheric plane connects with electromagnetic forces and with higher (or more subtle) planes of existence.
    Understanding more about the etheric plane will help scientists understand more about both the physical world and the electromagnetic spectrum as well as the jinn.

    Besides taking the form of what we perceive as aliens, they may look like shadow people, fairies, demons, monsters, ghosts, gnomes, dwarfs, leperchauns, angels, chupacabras, poltergeist, etc

    There is also a passage somewhere in the Quran (or else Hadith?) that claims that every man has a partner jin
    Hadith - Sahih Muslim 6757, Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, similar narration 6759 by 'Aisha, r.a.
    Allah's Apostle said: There is none amongst you with whom is not an attache from amongst the jinn (devil). They (the Companions) said: Allah's Apostle with you too? Thereupon he said: Yes, but Allah helps me against him and so I am safe from his hand and he does not command me but for good.http://www.islamawareness.net/Jinn/jinn.html
    Supposedly, Allah made all jinn subservient to the prophet Solomon. Not sure if it is the same Solomon described in the Bible.

    supposedly jinn were created from a fire without smoke whereas mankind was created from clay.

    in Islam, the jinn are lower beings than humans and angels. supposedly the jinn are allowed by Allah to seduce mankind to stray from Allah. A sort of test if you will...

    And then of course we have jedi master Qui-Gon Jinn from star wars who trained obi won kenobi and saved Anakin Skywalker from slavery and presented him to the jedi council who feared anakin was full of too much anger and fear. the council was right as anakin eventually turned into darth vader because of fear and anger.
    Last edited by Sense-A; 05-09-2010 at 12:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post

    There is also a passage somewhere in the Quran that claims that every man has a partner jin

    That statement is from hadith, not Quran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    in Islam, the jinn are lower beings than humans and angels. supposedly the jinn are allowed by Allah to seduce mankind to stray from Allah. A sort of test if you will...
    They dispose of the ability to make their own choices (free will) unlike the angel.They have been created before man and gone astray for the most part, some of them are good and some bad, some are believers and some not. The contact between them and us is forbidden but some of them interact with some human beign.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    Supposedly, Allah made all jinn subservient to the prophet Solomon. Not sure if it is the same Solomon described in the Bible.
    It is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    And then of course we have jedi master Qui-Gon Jinn from star wars who trained obi won kenobi and saved Anakin Skywalker from slavery and presented him to the jedi council who feared anakin was full of too much anger and fear. the council was right as anakin eventually turned into darth vader because of fear and anger.
    because of jeaousy.

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    Thanks for building hellspawn

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    if we are to believe that parallel universes and multiple dimensions exist, then we can also assume that entities, biological and otherwise, exist in those realms.

    and/or...

    what if what we call jinns and demons are nothing more that energies, forces...
    rage, for example, is an emotion, but emotion is just a vibration that is made physical via chemistry. what if jinns are what we CALL the vibration of rage or fear or hate...?

    idk all these labels of angels demons and whatnot are too earth/human centric for me.

    do aliens deal with demons?
    are aliens demons?

    idk man. we(humanity) reside on the back of a bacteria which lives on a grain of sand at the bottom of the ocean.

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