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    Default people who blindly deny conspiracy in america

    are just as ignorant as those who wear tin foil hats and bang their chest over everything in this country being a conspiracy

    does anyone agree

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    Sorry brother but this seems like a bit of a contradiction. If you say people who deny conspiracies are ignorant then how can you say people who believe them are ignorant also?
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    haha yea

    that sentence makes no sense
    We do it for the people.





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    Salaam (Peace)...

    people who blindly deny conspiracy in america are just as ignorant as those who wear tin foil hats and bang their chest over everything in this country being a conspiracy

    does anyone agree?
    I think that, given the clear record of the histories of governments and the corruptions that have poisoned them (particularly America), those who "blindly deny" conspiracies are either in a WORSE condition than those who "blindly accept" or assert such conspiracies, or they -- the deniers -- are actually a PART of the Conspiracies, themselves...maybe BOTH.

    The word "conspiracy" means, loosely, a group of two or more people who are in agreement to commit a certain act, or produce a certain result...usually unethical.

    That being the case...

    Was the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade the work of "one man"? Or, a "conspiracy"?

    Was the "Tuskeegee Experiment" the work of one man? Or, a conspiracy?

    Was the robbing of land from the Native Americans the work of one man? Or, a "conspiracy"?

    Is the present woeful condition of the Black Male (on average) the result of some "genetic predisposition" to mediocrity and/or apathy...or is it the result of a "conspiracy"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Can someone close this thread please?
    why? the dude above you made a perfectly valid point ... you could learn something in this thread boy

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastapowerful
    Sorry brother but this seems like a bit of a contradiction.
    ur not paying attention brother

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    Quote Originally Posted by speakonitgod View Post
    ur not paying attention brother
    I am paying attention, perhaps you worded it poorly? I think those who "blindly accept" and those who "blindly deny" are obviously equally ignorant.
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    I agree with speak, but at the same time, you have to remember that the main reason why people deny these things, is because they're scared shitless.

    I don't think that it's a case of them not believing that it's possible, though some do, but I think it's more a thing of them not being able to handle the truth.

    The distractions that the system has put in place to keep the masses pacified, along with the mental conditioning, the spiritual murder, and moral crucifictions that are constantly being thrown at us on a daily basis aren't for nothing.

    I've given this example before, but I feel the need to do it again. Anyone recall in the first, "Matrix", when Neo had just been unplugged and he was going through that training simulation with the woman in the red dress? That is one of my favorite scenes because the jewels that Morpheus dropped were so true about our world and it's condition. Namely, when he speaks of the minds of the people who are still plugged in, and tells Neo that these people are so dependent on the system that they will give their lives to defend it.

    The very same can be said for the peoples of the world who fully believe, despite all of the evidence proving otherwise, that their govrnments have their best interest at heart.

    The funny thing about conspiracies is the fact that a lot of them make perfect sense. I read a lot about them and have said, "Oh shit!" quite often when reading. It's the fact that the information is so unexpected, outlandish and all around evil that keeps people from approaching or believing these, "theories".

    Personally, I don't see what's so hard to believe. Excluding blatantly obvious facts like The 9-11 Conspiracy and all of the evidence pointing to the U.S. in terms of whodunnit, the explosives attached to the buildings, no wreckage found in Penn. or D.C. etc, the fact that the images of Uncle Sam and Baphomet are practically identical, the tracing out of streets in D.C. making an upside-down pentagram pointing directly @ The White House, the various symbols of not-so-secret societies that saturate the $1 bill.....let's leave all that out and remember this one very precious truth about evil.....usually.....the best way to hide is right out in public.

    The best way to conquer your enemy, is by seeming like a friend.

    That's why if you try to tell someone what's really going on, you're met with, "That's impossible! This is the United States! This is a free country! We're all about freedom!" The baby would be horrified if he or she were to turn on the light and find that the hand that fed it was covered in reptilian scales and what should've been milk was really cyanide and kool-aid. So, most people choose to stay in the dark.

    It is that group of people that is the majority though. Personally, I know that the world's governments are full of shit and conducting a silent (for now) genocide on the people and not a living ass can tell me otherwise. There's no other reason to use high fructose corn syrup in most ready-to-eat products, even some you wouldn't expect, like, "Total" and "Wheaties", instead of using natural sugar, or NO sweeteners at all in the case of the two above-mentioned products, unless you KNOW that when this shit bypasses the pancreas too often, the pancreas will shut down all together. It's a great war tactic if you really think about it, plus it saves you money to build more weapons of mass destruction. Don't even get me started on the poisons in fast food and it's availability to the masses either. Yet people still scratch their heads and wonder why 11 and 12 yr. old kids are poppin' up with shit like diabetes.

    Real knowledge in itself is heavy shit. Scary, powerful and unsettling on some level. Even the truest of men will at some point want to throw up. Still, I don't get too angry at the people who choose to walk around with their eyes wide shut, because the truth is like death, no matter how hard or how fast you run, in the end, it will hunt you down and make the kill.


    The knowledge of conspiracy is like all other knowledge worth gaining. It takes a while to put the pieces together and once put together, you're faced with the, "what next", decision. In between those two stages though, there's a point where a great fear comes over you. No enemy worth conquering is going to be a pushover, but these faggots aren't exactly immortals either, now are they?

    So, for the people who want to take the, "What are YOU going to do about it, if it IS true??" standpoint, all I can tell you pendejo, it's a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz View Post

    The very same can be said for the peoples of the world who fully believe, despite all of the evidence proving otherwise, that their govrnments have their best interest at heart.
    i don't know anybody at all who believes that the government has their best interests at heart. the recent economic floundering has really opened people's eyes up to the deception and ass-fucking the government constantly participates in, and people are growing - reasonably - cynical.



    Excluding blatantly obvious facts like The 9-11 Conspiracy and all of the evidence pointing to the U.S. in terms of whodunnit, the explosives attached to the buildings, no wreckage found in Penn. or D.C. etc, the fact that the images of Uncle Sam and Baphomet are practically identical, the tracing out of streets in D.C. making an upside-down pentagram pointing directly @ The White House, the various symbols of not-so-secret societies that saturate the $1 bill.....let's leave all that out and remember this one very precious truth about evil.....usually.....the best way to hide is right out in public.
    i don't believe it was a conspiracy at all. if, for example, the government would be willing to kill thousands of people on 9/11, why wouldn't they kill three frat boys making videos disposing of the entire evil plot? i don't know enough about the signs on the dollar to make a strong comment on that one in either direction (i'll do some more research and get back to you), but the Uncle Sam looking like Baphomet seems to be a bit overly paranoid.

    That's why if you try to tell someone what's really going on, you're met with, "That's impossible! This is the United States! This is a free country! We're all about freedom!" The baby would be horrified if he or she were to turn on the light and find that the hand that fed it was covered in reptilian scales and what should've been milk was really cyanide and kool-aid. So, most people choose to stay in the dark.
    i don't react in the same way, but i refuse to accept something without concrete information. it's apparent that there are certain people who have tremendous influence in the world, but that doesn't mean these people live on islands shaped like skulls and plot the rest of the world's demise. conspiracy theorists tend to make the jump to something grander (from a handful of terrorists to the New World Order), although the evidence is the other way.

    It is that group of people that is the majority though. Personally, I know that the world's governments are full of shit and conducting a silent (for now) genocide on the people and not a living ass can tell me otherwise. There's no other reason to use high fructose corn syrup in most ready-to-eat products, even some you wouldn't expect, like, "Total" and "Wheaties", instead of using natural sugar, or NO sweeteners at all in the case of the two above-mentioned products, unless you KNOW that when this shit bypasses the pancreas too often, the pancreas will shut down all together. It's a great war tactic if you really think about it, plus it saves you money to build more weapons of mass destruction. Don't even get me started on the poisons in fast food and it's availability to the masses either. Yet people still scratch their heads and wonder why 11 and 12 yr. old kids are poppin' up with shit like diabetes.
    people don't die from diabetes though, at least not often enough to be classifiable as "genocide." the government may not be behind all diseases plaguing the country (AIDS, cancer, the swine flu), but they aren't doing anything to help it. that doesn't mean it's to kill us and take us over. what gets them more money: slowly and laboriously treating you, letting people die to make others have more concern, and feeding you torture porn, OR curing it and having it be done with?

    basically, i would just like facts, and based on what facts i have, i'd say you're being overly paranoid. if you can prove me wrong i'll gladly concede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Muhammad View Post
    Salaam (Peace)...

    The word "conspiracy" means, loosely, a group of two or more people who are in agreement to commit a certain act, or produce a certain result...usually unethical.

    That being the case...

    Was the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade the work of "one man"? Or, a "conspiracy"?

    Was the "Tuskeegee Experiment" the work of one man? Or, a conspiracy?

    Was the robbing of land from the Native Americans the work of one man? Or, a "conspiracy"?

    Is the present woeful condition of the Black Male (on average) the result of some "genetic predisposition" to mediocrity and/or apathy...or is it the result of a "conspiracy"?
    I thought the word conspiracy meant something a little narrower. That is, including secrecy to the act. With those cases you listed, I don't know how secret they really were at the time. They are undoubtedly unethical by today's standards. Ethical history is a wide subject itself and is responsible for many events.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Threyev View Post
    i don't know anybody at all who believes that the government has their best interests at heart. the recent economic floundering has really opened people's eyes up to the deception and ass-fucking the government constantly participates in, and people are growing - reasonably - cynical.




    i don't believe it was a conspiracy at all. if, for example, the government would be willing to kill thousands of people on 9/11, why wouldn't they kill three frat boys making videos disposing of the entire evil plot? i don't know enough about the signs on the dollar to make a strong comment on that one in either direction (i'll do some more research and get back to you), but the Uncle Sam looking like Baphomet seems to be a bit overly paranoid.

    i don't react in the same way, but i refuse to accept something without concrete information. it's apparent that there are certain people who have tremendous influence in the world, but that doesn't mean these people live on islands shaped like skulls and plot the rest of the world's demise. conspiracy theorists tend to make the jump to something grander (from a handful of terrorists to the New World Order), although the evidence is the other way.


    people don't die from diabetes though, at least not often enough to be classifiable as "genocide." the government may not be behind all diseases plaguing the country (AIDS, cancer, the swine flu), but they aren't doing anything to help it. that doesn't mean it's to kill us and take us over. what gets them more money: slowly and laboriously treating you, letting people die to make others have more concern, and feeding you torture porn, OR curing it and having it be done with?

    basically, i would just like facts, and based on what facts i have, i'd say you're being overly paranoid. if you can prove me wrong i'll gladly concede.
    Just because you don't know anyone who feels this way, doesn't mean they aren't there, nor does it mean that maybe they just don't express how they really feel about it, as most people don't like to talk politics. The recent economic crisis may have opened up some people's eyes, but clearly not enough for them to really step forward and demand answers as to why it happened in the first place.

    What you think and what's really going on are two different things. War has always been the greatest business and clearly films like Loose Change, and Farenhieght were completely lost on you. Be that as it may though, you seem to fit quite nicely into that group of people who seems to insist on a rude awakening. Since 9-11 wasn't a conspiracy at all, then where is the wreckage from flight 93? Why aren't there pieces of plane, seats, clothes, luggage, all the usual signs of a plane crash? As for The Pentagon, not only do I ask the same question, but why weren't the names of the people who dies there read along with the rest? What? They didn't matter? Their families o.k.'d this? Or maybe that entire section of the building was vacated beforehand.

    Don't bother looking up the $1 Dollar bill, because all you'll probably come back with is something like, "It's just creativity, you're paranoid." and the like. I suppose the statue of George Washington that is also an exact replica to the pose that Baphomet is in, is also all a matter of paranoia and coincidence as well.


    So, because people don't die from diabetes, that makes it o.k. to use high fructose corn syrup instead of natural sugar right? Is that it? You're basically saying, "Well Ma'am, as long as your child isn't dead, diabetes isn't all that bad!" Nice one chief. It's still a disease that causes people pain, and in extreme cases, hinders them from doing every day activities. That doesn't mean their trying to kill us and take us over. Well, first of all, most of us are already taken over and statements like that just proved it. Second, if you don't think they're trying to kill us, consider all of the various chemicals that are being put into the livestock, the pesticides that are being sprayed onto the plants, whos poisons soak into the plant itself, so no matter how often you wash them, you still ingest them. Plus, the next time you look up and see what you believe to be a jet-stream, and it lingers WAY longer than a normal one after the plane is gone from sight, you might want to google the term, "chemtrails" and read up on that one as well.

    What makes them money? Seriously?


    Ok, follow me here, you get sick, what do most people do when they get sick. They go to a doctor. That doctor prescribes a drug for them to take that will dull the pain. Mask the symptoms. With the money that you pay for the rest of your life to fill these various prescriptions, multiplied by the number of people with multiple prescriptions, you can pretty much see where all of this is going. The pharmacies aren't in the business of, "finding cures", because there's no fuckin' MONEY in a cure. A cure means that you don't come back to fill any more prescriptions. That's why we're taught to put ultimate faith in what our doctor says, we have to trust what he or she tells us and never question it. Ever wonder why the FDA and Pharmacutical companies attacked homeboy for putting out, "Natural Cures....." and why he had to take out a bulk of his original information during the first publishing? No. Of course you didn't.

    By the way, Cayenne Pepper kills cancer cells. Take 2 40,000 mg capsules with every meal and it'll be dead within weeks. 1 month tops, for early stage cases. It may take longer for more severe cases, but not too much longer.

    The facts are all around you, if you'd bother to look in the right places. Anyone who doesn't know, refuses to know. Seeing as this is, "The Information Age" and the means to weigh one arguement against another are literally at the tips of our fingers.
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    Yo Urban Journalz be breakin it down!!
    Get yo mind right people
    Motha fuckas that dont believe in conspiracies are cheating themselves. You have been programmed to label people as conspiracy theorist when they hit you with some knowledge because these motha fuckas dont want us thinking outside the box!!!!!!Think about it threyev ure one of em


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    when the US govt is overthrowing democratically elected presidents in south america, you know somethings up, when noriega stopped paying attention to the CIA and gets taken out, you know somethings up, when they overthrow the govt of iran and install the shah as their leader u know somethings up, same with iraq, and they install saddam but saddam stopped following US ideas and ended up getting invaded in the 90s and killed in the 00's.

    Then people deny that they are trying to instill fear into the hearts of men when murder rates drop 20 percent and coverage of murder on news channels increase 600 percent.

    Corporations run the world, theyll help u out but when u fail to follow their orders, theyll take u out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasjit View Post
    when the US govt is overthrowing democratically elected presidents in south america, you know somethings up, when noriega stopped paying attention to the CIA and gets taken out, you know somethings up, when they overthrow the govt of iran and install the shah as their leader u know somethings up, same with iraq, and they install saddam but saddam stopped following US ideas and ended up getting invaded in the 90s and killed in the 00's.

    Then people deny that they are trying to instill fear into the hearts of men when murder rates drop 20 percent and coverage of murder on news channels increase 600 percent.

    Corporations run the world, theyll help u out but when u fail to follow their orders, theyll take u out.
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    Much respect to Urban Journalz.

    Those who deny conspiracies probably were not paying attention in history class.

    Sometimes the proof may not be evident, but the signs are there like Jasjit pointed out.

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