I'd have more respect for Farrakhan if he was dead

**abanks47** · 11-23-2009, 02:25 AM

if you really feel this way, then why have that accusation under your AV ?

We are an audience looking in just as you once were. it is up to the people with the facts to enlighten those without. we are basing are assumptions off of the compelling evidence laid out before us.It is not fact but certainly appears that Farrakhan had something to do with the elimination of Malcolm X. If this is not the case, please say so, all we are saying and the rest of the people who know some of the situation see is that Farrakhan definitely looks like a shady cat.

allot of things can warrant a mans death

Does this particular instance warrant a man's death, and also I think your statement is a bit broad. If you are asking myself, while being rational and having time to think about the situation I do not think any man or women should deserve to die. i don't believe in the death penalty, i hate all people who take life but do not wish death on them in any capacity. I wouldn't' even wish death on Hitler if he were still here. I can say that if myself or fam were being harmed, maybe in the same way the NOI was being dissed by Malcolm (still not sure how and waiting to be told) I may act differently but only in a spontaneous matter, never in a calculating matter which seemed to have occurred against Malcolm's favor.

people come/came in and out of the Nation for many years - no one gets killed for leaving the nation and having opposing views - if that was the case, there would be no offshoots - Rape ?

i never heard any rape stories

I believe this is in reference to the many affairs Elijah had with his many, very young secretaries. It was all apparently consensual but many felt disappointed in the situation because it was taught (please correct me if im wrong) to only have one wife. Another reason why it was looked down upon was because NOI funds were used to pay for his love children, nearing 20 in total i believe.

me giving you my opinion on whether or not Malcolm should have gotten murdered in 65, will do nothing to put us where we need to be today - my opinion will just be used as entertainment for idiots

I feel your opinion is valid as long as its just that, an opinion and not taken as a fact, just as mine has been. I would also take your opinion more seriously since you do have more credentials in the situation were discussing. I am slightly offended if you were referring to me as an idiot though, no reason for that. I wouldn't use it as entertainment, just as something to think about is all.

**LORD NOSE** · 11-23-2009, 03:16 AM

yo - look at the situation thoroughly before feelings are applied and names are called - i can't tell you what went down for sure -

i got to say this again though - MLKs face was in the papers with the title terrorist above his head -

who would call MLK a terrorist ?

i advise yall to watch where yall get yalls information from -

Malcolm did a great work and destroyed his work in a short time - it took me some years to understand what really was going on with Malcolm - it is my belief that the same people/forces that poisoned him in Mecca, killed him in america,using his own people -

they could not have had a white man kill Malcolm - think of the reasons why - plus Malcolm had to be killed before MLK was killed -

i urge yall to study Malcolm and Study Farrakhan and move up to a higher existence -

what frightened the gubment ?

look -

The Nation Does a weapons check before meetings - why did Malcolm abandon this procedure that day ?

what did white america think of Malcolm coming back from Mecca and starting an all black gun club ?

Elijah Told him to beware of the cameras - he didn't listen - were his words chopped and pieced together to suit his enemies ?

Elijah told him to not say anything concerning president kennedys death - Malcolm didn't listen - he said that it's a case of the chickens coming home to roost - in other words, what comes around goes around - he also said it with a smile -

did you know that there were many ministers besides Malcolm - why do yall speak of Farrakhan like if he had tremendous power in the NOI at that time ?

way too many people went back into the wilderness after all this went down - and died -

**ALCATRAZ** · 11-23-2009, 03:40 AM

sunny, do you think malcolm was a traitor to his people?

**abanks47** · 11-24-2009, 01:27 AM

who would call MLK a terrorist ?

The people who disliked his work and the people who were afraid of him having to much power. Sound familiar in the Malcolm X case?

i advise yall to watch where yall get yalls information from -

agreed news sources are faulty and wiki has false shit plastered everywhere. but when a man in front of a respected congregation implements himself and his colleagues in a crime its hard to debunk that.

Malcolm did a great work and destroyed his work in a short time - it took me some years to understand what really was going on with Malcolm - it is my belief that the same people/forces that poisoned him in Mecca, killed him in america,using his own people -

Could you tell me more about this? I'm curious what you feel he did to build and what he did to destroy. I will not hate on your answer just curious. he was poisoned in Mecca, i had no idea? thanks for sharing i will research that some more.

they could not have had a white man kill Malcolm - think of the reasons why - plus Malcolm had to be killed before MLK was killed -

whites can do anything blacks can do. a white man killed MLK so why not for Malcolm as well. and how did malcolm HAVE to be killed before MLK. He did not have to be killed which is one of the reasons why i started posting in this thread. I feel him dieing was unnecessary adn a tragic loss.

i urge yall to study Malcolm and Study Farrakhan and move up to a higher existence -

I will research both brothers. any literature you recommend for either. i will pick this book up this weekend if it is truth.

The Nation Does a weapons check before meetings - why did Malcolm abandon this procedure that day ?

Are you sure this was standard procedure at this time? Was it standard procedure for Malcolm? you said it yourself you were not around then so how could you know a minute detail such as that? also seems the plot is getting thicker, maybe the doormen had something to with it and simply let the gunmen walk through

what did white america think of Malcolm coming back from Mecca and starting an all black gun club ?

Never knew about this, but at the time I'd imagine them not liking it. Thanks for sharing this info as well, but do you really think they'd murder him for it?

Elijah Told him to beware of the cameras - he didn't listen - were his words chopped and pieced together to suit his enemies ?

He did warn him, by not listening to his instructions was he punished? Possibly? All interviews I've seen of Malcolm have had little cuts so I don't think that was really an issue but I definitely could be wrong.

Elijah told him to not say anything concerning president kennedys death - Malcolm didn't listen - he said that it's a case of the chickens coming home to roost - in other words, what comes around goes around - he also said it with a smile -

I remember this and feel X was definitely in the wrong. Shit was unneccessary at the time and did not need to be said. Do you think this statement could have caused the government want to murder him? I dont.

did you know that there were many ministers besides Malcolm - why do yall speak of Farrakhan like if he had tremendous power in the NOI at that time ?

Because he did. yes there were many but not many who spoke like Malcolm and Farrakhan, and not many who rose through the ranks becoming ministers as fast (school me if im wrong). not to mention both had some pretty drastic life changes which would also cause them to shine more IMO.

way too many people went back into the wilderness after all this went down - and died

are you being literal here? did people actually go into the wilderness and die? No joke, I've never heard of this before

DO YOU THINK MALCOLM X DESERVED TO DIE IN THE MANNER THAT HE DID, IN FRONT OF ALL OF HIS CHILDREN, WIFE, AND CONGREGATION? {YES} {NO}

**LORD NOSE** · 11-24-2009, 01:51 AM