are there any true experiences of mysticism?
like i know monks can raise their temperature and drop metabolism like nobodies business ... but is there anything other than that? maybe some shamans who practice mysticism that has been proven to work or other monks doing crazy shit ... i want duh knowledge
sunny? palehorse?
Appearantly religious people can handle more pain when shown images of the virgin mary.
what do you mean by "true experiences"?
there's been many true mystics throughout history and (this what's most amazing about the whole topic) their writings are all describing the same thing pretty much...essentially, a transcendence of time and space and a feeling of infinity..An inflation past one's individual self to a oneness with the whole universe
I've mentioned this book before but "Cosmic Consciousness" by Richard Maurice Bucke is essentially a look at all the mystics throughout history, their lives, experiences, and writings...SICK book which thoroughly (but not boringly or lengthily) describes levels of consciousness from simple to cosmic..
nice, thanks ... i'll definitely cop
Look up the Jansenist Miracles
and dont just read the first article you find.
look into it
I first learned about it in a book called "the holographic universe" by micheal talbot,
Last edited by PALEHORSE; 12-26-2009 at 10:40 PM.
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
my brother owns that bookI first learned about it in a book called "the holographic universe" by micheal talbot,
i never got around to reading it though.
We do it for the people.
self hypnosis.
in my 1st session i was taught pain management.
basically a visualization of numbing my hand in a bucket of icewater.
i was asked to pinch my hand. i couldn't feel it. the other hand i could.
then transfer that numbness to where i felt pain by touching it with the numb hand.
then i was taught to do this on my own.
the mind is a powerful thing.
I made a thread while back about Sufi Mysticism, you should check it out.
Mysticism goes beyond the plane of conceived reality, there have been many documented accounts over the years of extreme feats of psychical endurance, but where the true power of mysticism lies is the peeling back of the layers of reality, just like a onion.
Forget researching about other peoples experiences you have got to do it for yourself.
*POWERFUL INFORMATION ALERT*
Search the document "Liber Null" and purchase some mushrooms or tabs or whatever and perform the rituals you read then call me in the morning....
Bank heist in Kathmandu, it was a slaughter
The day Buddha was born it rained tea instead of water
so after reading liber null & psychonaut...
the magic described within, i think would be most effective when clear and sober.
there is some powerful stuff in there that would pose a dangerous threat to the uninitiated.
its kinda irresponsible to recommend for someone to trip and do these magical rituals uniformed and unaware. unless you don't take the shit seriously and are just having fun. then by all means get your harry potter wand and have a ball.
you read the book of enoch?
I read that shit tripping with my friends in a field for your information.
We performed certain rituals.
Alcatraz has taken psychedelic before so he should be OK with the effects.
Liber Null is based on pyschonautics so the trips are obviously custom made to be used under the influence of entheogens/sacred sacrements.
Like i said before psychedelics are TOOLS not the answer not even the key, just TOOLS.
Bank heist in Kathmandu, it was a slaughter
The day Buddha was born it rained tea instead of water
thats not what i mean. well partially...
but the gist of my statement is that magic is not for everyon and more specifically not for those who know very little about unseen forces.
you know as well as i do that you can let genies out of their bottles.
or worse, open doors you don't know how to close.
especially since you are dealing with a sect that has Alister Crowley as a founding father. some dark forces surround this form of magic. you are not aware, you can end up getting hurt.
thats why i said do it sober FIRST. replace the drugs with meditation and breathing.
work your way up to chemically altered consciousness.
if you gotta use something, take a couple of shots of some whiskey to loosen the mind a lil bit.
this is not completely true.
chemically altered states are just PART of the psychonautic field of study.
you have dreams, meditation, fasting, dancing, sound/light...
all ways that separate the mind from body in order to study the mind from new perspectives, which is the definition of psychonautics (exploring the mind)
drugs are the popular way cause lets face it, people are lazy and like to get high.
Lots of people class Crowley as "dark" i wouldn't say that, he represented humanity in its rawest and truthfullist with no candy coated love or fake shit, he straight up built this theories and rituals on natrual human interaction and nature minus the psuedo science.
I understand you saying having a head full of acid then summoning these energies would be too much for must people, your right about that, you either don't do it or go all the way.
There's no half-heartedness when approaching such delicate life changing rituals.
Perform magick that has been pescribed to the sober, Liber Null is for the pyschonauts.
If Alca can't handle it so be it, there's other ways, namely sufi mysticism.
Bank heist in Kathmandu, it was a slaughter
The day Buddha was born it rained tea instead of water
Read the book then tell me it wasen't made to be performed by the learned entheogen user...
Bank heist in Kathmandu, it was a slaughter
The day Buddha was born it rained tea instead of water
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