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    and another site (click through the pages using the arrow)

    http://www.thebricktestament.com/the.../dt22_23a.html


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    how does it defend rape and advise it, i dont get it

    edit: nvm i read the last one that one is suspect.
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    "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. a]" class="footnote">[a] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. "

    This one is saying if you rape a woman she effectivly becomes yours to own.

    If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies.
    And people say the Ko'ran preaches hate.


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    Bible banter. Zooroka may find a girl he likes, rape her, and then legally marry her.

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    they'll say that that is the old testament and the old god - that jesus is the new god with the new way - with this new way, you would forgive the rapist, not kill them, and let them eat at the table with you and your daughters - this would be the christ like thing to do -

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    This thread is full of lies....


    There are two points to note here. First, even though the verse may seem to be instructing the rapist to marry the victim the passage nowhere sanctions, condones or even approves of rape. This is simply a gross misreading of the text. The injunction is intended to instruct the Israelites on how to deal with and address a rape situation if and when it occurs.


    The bible don`t support rape it gives a soloution to the problem of rape...that verse above ^^^ says that if some girl is raped then you must marry her, so you do not dishonour her, this is the ethical soloution to the problem of rape, because God knows those things happen, but nowhere in the bible is there a proclomation condoning it...Go read again kid.



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    I think the more shocking thing is that these passeges outline the fact that women are of little value at all to the writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beautifulrock View Post
    I think the more shocking thing is that these passeges outline the fact that women are of little value at all to the writer.
    good point.

    also to note, Judges 21:10-24, if zooroka says rape is an inevitable human trait with the punishment of having the man to marry the woman, how does he explain for example the verse just metioned in line with justice and Godliness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prof zooruka View Post


    The bible don`t support rape it gives a soloution to the problem of rape...that verse above ^^^ says that if some girl is raped then you must marry her, so you do not dishonour her, this is the ethical soloution to the problem of rape, because God knows those things happen, but nowhere in the bible is there a proclomation condoning it...Go read again kid.



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    you can rape a woman, you just have to marry her afterward so that there are no hard feelings

    Quote Originally Posted by prof zooruka View Post
    ...that verse above ^^^ says ........



    peace be with you !






    which one ?

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    Its funny how you hear right wing western media often always comment on how the Qu'ran preaches "Jihad". They never mention however the huge amounts of war acts that are mentioned in the Bible under the support of the LORD. So many times figures inthe Bible are instructed to plunder and ravage towns in the name of the LORD.

    Alot more, I can tell, than the Qu'ran does. A hell of a lot more.


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    every religion has violence in it tho, other than maybe taoism and shintoism even budhism have the shaolin monks who are lethal with the hands, but when people talk about jihad and dont mention the crusades its such a one sided argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasjit View Post
    every religion has violence in it tho, other than maybe taoism and shintoism even budhism have the shaolin monks who are lethal with the hands, but when people talk about jihad and dont mention the crusades its such a one sided argument
    There is nothing in the new testement that commands violence by its followers, if anything it speaks against it, but islam and the koran commands it`s followers to the act of jihad... I mean just take the examples of the two founders of islam and christianity...Jesus was peaceful, humble and went around doing good....muhummad went around with violence, terror and sexual immorality.


    As for the old testement and violence, These where commanded by God for a specific purpose in establishing the state of israel and for providing justice, not for the sake of spreading the religion or concoring nations for political gain and power...also If God commands somthing...who is anyone to say otherwise, he is GOD ALMIGHTY he can create and destroy whatever he wishes, because he made it ALL !!!!!!!


    peace be with you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by prof zooruka View Post





    As for the old testement and violence, These where commanded by God for a specific purpose in establishing the state of israel and for providing justice, not for the sake of spreading the religion or concoring nations for political gain and power...also If God commands somthing...who is anyone to say otherwise, he is GOD ALMIGHTY he can create and destroy whatever he wishes, because he made it ALL !!!!!!!


    peace be with you !
    so god commanded the children of israel to rape women so that god and the children of israel can establish the state of israel - God needs violence to establish a state - did he create the earth and the other planets the same way ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS View Post
    so god commanded the children of israel to rape women so that god and the children of israel can establish the state of israel - God needs violence to establish a state - did he create the earth and the other planets the same way ?

    Show me where God commands rape ????


    peace be with you !

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