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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/03/army.unit/ ( this was announced in black october )

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States military's Northern Command, formed in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks, is dedicating a combat infantry team to deal with catastrophes in the U.S., including terrorist attacks and natural disasters.

    The 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry, which was first into Baghdad, Iraq, in 2003, started its controversial assignment Wednesday.

    The First Raiders will spend 2009 as the first active-duty military unit attached to the U.S. Northern Command since it was created. They will be based in Fort Stewart, Georgia, and focus primarily on logistics and support for local police and rescue personnel, the Army says.

    The plan is drawing skepticism from some observers who are concerned that the unit has been training with equipment generally used in law enforcement, including beanbag bullets, Tasers, spike strips and roadblocks.

    That kind of training seems a bit out of line for the unit's designated role as Northern Command's CCMRF (Sea Smurf), or CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force. CBRNE stands for chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high-yield explosive incidents.

    According to Northern Command's Web site, the CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force is a team that will ultimately number about 4,700 personnel from the different military branches that would deploy as the Department of Defense's initial response force.

    Its capabilities include search and rescue, decontamination, medical, aviation, communications and logistical support. Each CCMRF will be composed of three functional task forces -- Task Force Operations, Task Force Medical and Task Force Aviation -- that have individual operational focus and mission skills, the Web site says.

    The Army says the unit would be deployed to help local, state or federal agencies deal with such incidents, not take the lead. The law enforcement-type training is not connected to its new mission, it says.

    Use of active-duty military as a domestic police force has been severely limited since passage of the Posse Comitatus Act following the Civil War.

    Bloggers are criticizing the new force, saying that because it has been training in law enforcement tactics it could be be used for domestic law enforcement.

    Troops may be trained in non-lethal tactics, but they are not trained for what they may have to deal with in domestic situations, said Gene Healy, a vice president of the conservative think-tank Cato Institute.

    Healy said civilian police and, if circumstances are extreme, National Guard troops under the command of state governors should keep the peace.

    "Federal troops should always be a last resort, never a first responder," he said.

    Critics also point to a General Accounting Office study in 2003 that found that domestic security missions put a strain on a military stretched thin by two simultaneous wars, and that a unit's readiness for combat is reduced if the members have to take time out to respond to an emergency at home.

    The U.S. military "is not a Swiss Army knife," ready to fight the Taliban one week, respond to a hurricane the next and put down a major political protest the third week, Healy said.

    The Army says the non-lethal training is an outgrowth of missions that troops have faced around the world in recent years.

    "We need a lot more in our toolbox in order to deal with angry people on the street," said Col. Barry Johnson of U.S. Army North.

    The units are well-trained in the skills they might need to assist the Northern Command, and that won't weaken the unit when and if it goes back to Iraq.

    The designation of a specific unit as the CCMRF is a step forward, he said.

    The active-duty military has long had units capable of handling chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or other domestic emergencies, such as hurricanes, Johnson said. But they were assigned as needed. Now they will have a unit that knows in advance that it might be called upon to respond in a domestic emergency.

    "We don't have the luxury to wish these things away. We have to imagine the unimaginable," Johnson said.
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    you're way out there in a possible future


    we know the possibilities

    we have to focus on spoiling those plans


    if we stay disconnected, these events will be easy to bring to pass

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    Your right
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    One thing though that triggered this was me googling - "the real unemployment rate"
    basically they telling us the rate is 8.5 but experts not in mainstream media are saying 17.5%.

    The great depression was 25%.
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    it's all preparation -

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    black people live in a great depression state regardless of what the statistics show

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ View Post
    black people live in a great depression state regardless of what the statistics show
    You can add the black - brown - white - yellow - red people where I live to that list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ View Post
    black people live in a great depression state regardless of what the statistics show
    Not entirely. (Unless you are using that as a metaphor for an entirely different discussion)

    You weren't around for the great depression nor understand how scarce basic necessities to survive were. My grandmother has some stories.

    There was a no such thing as welfare reform or many of the social programs put in place that the U.S. has in our present day.


    People who cry poverty in 2010 don't understand what odds those who came before their time faced (Let alone outside this country). Most are too stubborn to acknowledge this. I remember noticing how angry Graveyard shifter was getting when people completely dismissed the Liberia documentary I posted.

    But yea people need to learn to work with less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Sinclair View Post
    Not entirely. (Unless you are using that as a metaphor for an entirely different discussion)

    You weren't around for the great depression nor understand how scarce basic necessities to survive were. My grandmother has some stories.

    There was a no such thing as welfare reform or many of the social programs put in place that the U.S. has in our present day.


    People who cry poverty in 2010 don't understand what odds those who came before their time faced (Let alone outside this country). Most are too stubborn to acknowledge this. I remember noticing how angry Graveyard shifter was getting when people completely dismissed the Liberia documentary I posted.

    But yea people need to learn to work with less.
    My family had it worse during the great depression then typical folk - on top of not being white during the depression they were metis and native in Canada and black Jamaicans.

    Metis people have gone through things just as badly as bad shit can happen to a people oppressed. Louis Riel changed a lot of things in
    Canada.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Riel
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    we have to learn how to do without

    even more so

    how i see it

    the supreme is detaching us from the machine and picking up the ripe ones

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    ^^beautiful
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    these are acts of desperation.
    if there wasn't a threat of revolution(awakening), then there would be no need for a task force.

    old systems are crumbling, new ones will emerge.

    those in power see this coming and are afraid.
    fear is a low vibration.
    fear is a weak vibration.
    they want us to join their freqeuncy.


    lets change the station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WUnded Fox View Post
    these are acts of desperation.
    if there wasn't a threat of revolution(awakening), then there would be no need for a task force.

    old systems are crumbling, new ones will emerge.

    those in power see this coming and are afraid.
    fear is a low vibration.
    fear is a weak vibration.
    they want us to join their freqeuncy.


    lets change the station.
    Beautiful.

    Ninja thanks for that post.
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    nice

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