Che Guevara: His highly racist qoutes

[Dwyck]

Sadly The OP Demonstrates The Same Racist Ignorance By Posting This Topic... I For One Don't Support Racism But Understand That It Does Exist... And "Everyone" Is A Product Of Their Environment Whether They Like It Or Not... The Respect I Have For Che Isn't Based On His Personal Views But His Dedication To Change What "He" Felt Needed To Be Changed... The Fact That His Power Was Manifested From Almost Nothing Is What Impressed Me The Most... I Don't Have To Agree With Someone's Views To Respect Their Ambition And Heart To Fight The Impossible Fight...

It's Loosely The Same Reason I Listen To Wu-Tang I Guess... I Don't Share Most Of Their Beliefs And Views But I Respect The Way They Came From Nothing And Achieved The Power To Express Themselves The Way They See Fit... Which Is Why I Bark On Most Of These Clown Ass Posters That Judge And Micro Manage Their Music Like A Pop Magazine Tweener... As If They've Earned The Right Or Status... But That's Just My Opinion...

[Urban_Journalz]

^^Thank you.

I'm sure most of you have forgotten all about when Eninem came out with the 'N' word about a chick he used to date, didn't you? Meaning, if you can forget about that, which, to me, is way worse, because there was no kind of saving grace for him except that he was mad, then this is child's play.

You put up the remark about the Congoese soldiers as being highly racist?? lol. Seriously?? Read it again o.k.? All he's saying is, "These fuckers don't know how this shit works! Hell, they don't know how their OWN shit works! So WTF?!" As for the rest, they've already been broken down into where Che was in life when he spoke like this. It would do you well to read some NON ANTI-CHE literature to try and get the real deal on the man, but this is way beyond your present capabilities.

I bet you'd have a real attitude if someone started a thread on how racist Malcolm X's comments could be at times and the FIRST thing that would come out of every mouth is, "That was before he went to Mecca!! He changed when he made that trip!!" Exactly. So, don't try to make Che out to be a fuckin' Klansman when you know good and well we did great things. Things that are admired, respected and loved to this very day. This little petty attempt at defamation? Come on, people have gotten up on National Television, created entire websites, trying to bring this man's image to the dust. If all that hasn't worked, where do you think this little shit thread stands??

[Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster]

^^Thank you.

I'm sure most of you have forgotten all about when Eninem came out with the 'N' word about a chick he used to date, didn't you? Meaning, if you can forget about that, which, to me, is way worse, because there was no kind of saving grace for him except that he was mad, then this is child's play.

You put up the remark about the Congoese soldiers as being highly racist?? lol. Seriously?? Read it again o.k.? All he's saying is, "These fuckers don't know how this shit works! Hell, they don't know how their OWN shit works! So WTF?!" As for the rest, they've already been broken down into where Che was in life when he spoke like this. It would do you well to read some NON ANTI-CHE literature to try and get the real deal on the man, but this is way beyond your present capabilities.

I bet you'd have a real attitude if someone started a thread on how racist Malcolm X's comments could be at times and the FIRST thing that would come out of every mouth is, "That was before he went to Mecca!! He changed when he made that trip!!" Exactly. So, don't try to make Che out to be a fuckin' Klansman when you know good and well we did great things. Things that are admired, respected and loved to this very day. This little petty attempt at defamation? Come on, people have gotten up on National Television, created entire websites, trying to bring this man's image to the dust. If all that hasn't worked, where do you think this little shit thread stands??

So it doesn't matter that he killed, raped, massacred the innocent and ulitmately made people's lives worse? You just think he's cool because he rebelled?

[Urban_Journalz]

So it doesn't matter that he killed, raped, massacred the innocent and ulitmately made people's lives worse? You just think he's cool because he rebelled?

No son, I've actually read a FEW books on this man's life, unlike most of you who take a few quotes and go to either good or bad-mouthing. Yeah, I saw his image on shirts before, but never knew who he truly was. I picked up, "CHE: A Revolutionary Life." and THEN I started to be inspired. Again, like Malcolm, a lot of people talk smack and a lot of people praise. You have to get both sides of the story to know what's really happening, and from what I can see, you and a few others haven't done that. Again, if someone were to post about how racist Malcolm's quotes were BEFORE he went to Mecca, most of the site would start talkin' shit because most know, that was the OLD Malcolm. These quotes are of the OLD Che and even the ones that are post-Revolutionary, have a LOT of truth to them. Yo, I'm Black & Dominican, you think I don't know how lazy and complacent a lot of my people are??? This cat was speaking the truth in some instances, but he STILL went over to The Congo and tried to free those people. Don't forget that MOST of Cuba is Afro-Cuban.

Instead of those quotes, we would be better to remember other quotes like, "I don't care if I die, as long as someone else picks up my gun and keeps on shooting."

That's a quote WORTH quoting kid, because it's UNIVERSAL. Don't front like you, me, or anyone in the forum hasn't sat back and talked shit about another group of people based on a shitty stereo-type. We're ALL guilty. The determining factor is if you can get passed that shit and see everyone as yourself. Like the Mayans said son, "En La'Kech" or, "I am another YOU."

PEACE

[Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster]

No son, I've actually read a FEW books on this man's life, unlike most of you who take a few quotes and go to either good or bad-mouthing. Yeah, I saw his image on shirts before, but never knew who he truly was. I picked up, "CHE: A Revolutionary Life." and THEN I started to be inspired. Again, like Malcolm, a lot of people talk smack and a lot of people praise. You have to get both sides of the story to know what's really happening, and from what I can see, you and a few others haven't done that. Again, if someone were to post about how racist Malcolm's quotes were BEFORE he went to Mecca, most of the site would start talkin' shit because most know, that was the OLD Malcolm. These quotes are of the OLD Che and even the ones that are post-Revolutionary, have a LOT of truth to them. Yo, I'm Black & Dominican, you think I don't know how lazy and complacent a lot of my people are??? This cat was speaking the truth in some instances, but he STILL went over to The Congo and tried to free those people. Don't forget that MOST of Cuba is Afro-Cuban.

Instead of those quotes, we would be better to remember other quotes like, "I don't care if I die, as long as someone else picks up my gun and keeps on shooting."

That's a quote WORTH quoting kid, because it's UNIVERSAL. Don't front like you, me, or anyone in the forum hasn't sat back and talked shit about another group of people based on a shitty stereo-type. We're ALL guilty. The determining factor is if you can get passed that shit and see everyone as yourself. Like the Mayans said son, "En La'Kech" or, "I am another YOU."

PEACE

So, stripping away your fluff and condescension, you're saying that you think Che was cool because he was a rebel.

It doesn't matter that not only were his motivations suspect at best, but that his entire fight and ultimately the results were detrimental to everyone with which they were associated?

I have not only studied the man from both sides, but my family knew him and Castro.

They offered to make my grandfather, an already wealthy man, even wealthier if he would rat out anybody who said, or might be thinking of saying, anything negative of "the revolution".

I have family that lived in Cuba before and during Castro's ascension to power, and I have family that lives there now.

They still feel the pain that Che caused directly.

But you read a book once and selectively interpreted it to back up your preconceived notions, so I guess you're an expert.

[']

I guess I might as well research Christopher Columbus, get both sides of the story, and if he has any heroic qualities that can be interpreted universally I'll start printing off the t-shirts.



You will all get one free at the upcoming KTL conference being held at the Marriott.

[knowcheeze]

So, stripping away your fluff and condescension, you're saying that you think Che was cool because he was a rebel.

It doesn't matter that not only were his motivations suspect at best, but that his entire fight and ultimately the results were detrimental to everyone with which they were associated?

I have not only studied the man from both sides, but my family knew him and Castro.

They offered to make my grandfather, an already wealthy man, even wealthier if he would rat out anybody who said, or might be thinking of saying, anything negative of "the revolution".

I have family that lived in Cuba before and during Castro's ascension to power, and I have family that lives there now.

They still feel the pain that Che caused directly.

But you read a book once and selectively interpreted it to back up your preconceived notions, so I guess you're an expert.

danu fubu??? you still here?

you wanna be one of wutangcorps biggest assholes
biggest white supremists
you get constantly served up in here and for some
reason come back for more

you have NO moral grounds to stand on

nobody listens to you

and really....if your fucking punk ass family
acts like YOU DO....then eye can understand
why Che and Fidel caused them so much problems

you one of the biggest devils at wutang corp

and NOW you wanna be taken seriously?????

its way past your bedtime bitch

put on your pajamas with the footsies and
get your ass in bed

om sorry dude

your behavior is pretty fuckin ugly

you drop absolutely ZERO Knowledge

your parents did a fucking shitty ass job
raising you OBVIOUSLY

yes.....Che came to murder your type

long live EL FUSOR ERNESTO CHE GUEVARA!!!!!!

[food for thought]

^reped.

[TheBoarzHeadBoy]

Unless that's a metaphor that's not a brilliant quote. If he's saying I'll martyr if others complete my work fine, but to me that sounds like he's suggesting that war should never end and that violence is the answer.

[Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster]

Good. I feel safe and protected.

[knowcheeze]

"Do you know why theyve been posted on racist forums? BECAUSE HE SAID RACIST SHIT. AND THEY LIKE PEOPLE WHO SAY RACIST SHIT."

you know eye was gonna bring this up
and here you go bring it up yourself

this shit you originally posted here to start this thread

when eye was looking for these quotes

guess what?

eye found them in the EXACT same order you posted them

at mostly ULTRA RIGHT WING websites....

and even at stormfront

which basically means....you(franchize)
get your fuckin news from ultra right wingers
and nazi's....lol

simple motherfuckin mathmatics!!!!!!!

"It seems to bother you more that theyve been posted on racist forums rather than the fact they were posted by Che himself, in his own books."

we will get to that in a second
and let me tell you son....passive aggressive behavior
is feminine and bitch like......

yes there are people who work for this
Puppeteer eye speak of who still to this
day try to dig up all the dirt they can
on the great ones

but that doesn't excuse the fact
that you get your news from
right wingers and inbred skinheads

the quotes came in the exact same order
you posted them....lol

why don't you just go to bohemian grove
and suck sum dicks cuz what you are
doing here in no different

"These are his own words. Who cares where else theyve been posted. It's beside the point. Thats what happens when you write racist shit."

lets revisit

the most obviously suspect quote iz the one
about the COngo-lese

if you ever read a book or studyed the subject
above you would know that some of the higher
ranking COngolese soldiers Che was working
with was more concerned with getting
pussy and and getting drunk as well as lower
ranking ones

on their first ambush many of the COngolese
soldiers threw down their weapons and just
ran

he was basically in this quote giving you a run
down of the situation he faced there

so......1/4th of your quotes doesn't
really prove your theory.....franch fries

and the fact that Che was up in sum
jungle getting eaten up by bugs
with a tiny untrained undisicplined army
having bad fuckin asthma attacks
away from his wife and children
battling the same white mercenaries
who Malcolm da X condemned for
airplane bombing of
congolese....men.....women...and children

proves you and your buddy's wrong

two of your quotes you listed
was from around 1950, 51 and 52

one of them you left out the whole
quote....well u didn't....your
news source did....

"The blacks, those magnificent examples of the African race who have conserved their racial purity by a lack of affinity with washing, have seen their patch invaded by a different kind of slave: The Portugese.... the black is indolent and fanciful, he spends his money on frivolity and drink; the European comes from a tradition of working and saving which follows him to this corner of America and drives him to get ahead."

ummmm.... little rough around the edges
but that quote is from early 50's

a maricon such as yourself could problably
take a bunch of pre-1963 Malcolm X
quotes and try to butcher him as well

but om not buyin it

the first, very pro black part of the quote basically says...

the MAGNIFICIENT black race
who have remarkably kept their
race PURE
is being INVADED by different type of slave.....
a portugese Slave!!!!!
portugal is in where......EUROPE...

your rope is your psychological booh booh's

franch fries

then he goes on to describe
this "SLAVE INVADER" the portugese european
as a worker and saver of money
and the black man as chasing
frivolity and drink

almost sounds like ELijah Muhammad

this was CHe's observation of
the Carribean COast of SOuth
America in the early 50's before
he was "CHe"

and to add on......
when you forsake someone like
Castro and CHavez for a USA puppet dictator
your gonna have oppressed black
people who can't get ahead
while european "invader slaves"
will come and have way more
opportunity due to having
the mighty YOU ROPE connection

moving on....

the 3rd quote.....Mexicans are a band
of illiterate indians

from the early 1950's

just another observation

DOn Juan Matus said the same thing

Che also would later on in life
call Mexico a dollar democracy

thats what happens when you
a USA puppet....
a new las vegas for fags to buttfuck each
other at

you got
illiterate poor people

when FIdel and CHe and em was trying
to erase illiteracy in CUba
does that make him racist?

no....they identifying the problem

now....the 4th quote.....eye can't
find the interview

it was right after Che entered Havana
in 1959

and knowing how Che was trying
to eradicate Racism he was
problably offended by the question

it would be like asking him

what are you going to do for whites

Che was all about Equality

he didn't want to divide people up by
race

in fact when he filled out
his first Cuban nationality card
Che left the race section
blank

and he said it was because
he wanted a unified CUba
with equality in race relations


"Dude, wtf, are you living under a rock? Che is the white middle class rebelling teen culture hero. They love him. Although i'm pretty sure most of them dont know that he held racist beliefs."

dude wtf get the gerbils out your ass

you got no proof

but in this retarded ass thread we have all
the proof we need

the living classroom

this thread is a science experiment

one of the people who agreed with you
self describes himself as a brooks
brothers wearing caucasian surburban thug!!!????!!!!
a guy who admits
he wants 3rd world
countries to be turned
into
Las Vegas

and then you got Danu Fubu
no explanation needed

this thread speaks for it self you fuckin Maricon
about what DEMOGRAPHIC hates che

lol

in closing

Bone Thugs is ok

eye call them whiteboy rap
because
whiteboys in particular love them
some bonethugs

but eye do find it odd that Myka Nyne
ghost wrote for NWA for years
and all off a sudden this
group comes out produced
by Easy E that sounds a
whole lot like one of the many styles
of the freestyle fellowship.......cruuuuuu!!!

yeah Dead Prez one of the few groups remaining
that throws the Cracker bomb around
in they lyrics.....got a picture of
Che in the video where they shoot
the cop.....

thank u come again

[TheBoarzHeadBoy]

"Dude, wtf, are you living under a rock? Che is the white middle class rebelling teen culture hero. They love him. Although i'm pretty sure most of them dont know that he held racist beliefs."

dude wtf get the gerbils out your ass

you got no proof

but in this retarded ass thread we have all
the proof we need

the living classroom

this thread is a science experiment

one of the people who agreed with you
self describes himself as a brooks
brothers wearing caucasian surburban thug!!!????!!!!
a guy who admits
he wants 3rd world
countries to be turned
into
Las Vegas

and then you got Danu Fubu
no explanation needed

this thread speaks for it self you fuckin Maricon
about what DEMOGRAPHIC hates che

lol

in closing

Bone Thugs is ok

eye call them whiteboy rap
because
whiteboys in particular love them
some bonethugs

but eye do find it odd that Myka Nyne
ghost wrote for NWA for years
and all off a sudden this
group comes out produced
by Easy E that sounds a
whole lot like one of the many styles
of the freestyle fellowship.......cruuuuuu!!!

yeah Dead Prez one of the few groups remaining
that throws the Cracker bomb around
in they lyrics.....got a picture of
Che in the video where they shoot
the cop.....

thank u come again

Hahahaaha have you even been to Las Vegas? Pre Market crash it was one of the nicest places to raise a family in America and thus the world.

I like how you turn it into a music discussion bro. Dead Prez? Liking Che? So he must be good. Dead Prez are a couple of black communists or anarchists writing anti establishment lyrics. Hardly the unbiased intelligent source for garnering knowledge. If they were smarter they wouldn't be artists. Artists don't think with their mind, they think with there heart (which is good and important, both to society, and to this discussion). So they agree with the idea of Che, but who knows how they'd have like him if they knew him.

Who said I was thug? I said I'm Wu Corps Most Hardcore (in terms of my partying) Brooks Brothers Wearing (As in I rock class) Surburban (Real American) Teenager (I've got 17 years of being smarter then you)

[knowcheeze]

"Hahahaaha have you even been to Las Vegas? Pre Market crash it was one of the nicest places to raise a family in America and thus the world."

you love exploitation....shut da fuck up
your mask is off Mr. Thugged out Caucasian

"I like how you turn it into a music discussion bro. Dead Prez? Liking Che? So he must be good. Dead Prez are a couple of black communists or anarchists writing anti establishment lyrics. Hardly the unbiased intelligent source for garnering knowledge. If they were smarter they wouldn't be artists. Artists don't think with their mind, they think with there heart (which is good and important, both to society, and to this discussion). So they agree with the idea of Che, but who knows how they'd have like him if they knew him."

you wouldn't find a Che picture in
a uncle tom ass bone thugs video

you would find them with a 40 ounce
singing in a style similar to freestyle
fellowship


"Who said I was thug? I said I'm Wu Corps Most Hardcore (in terms of my partying) Brooks Brothers Wearing (As in I rock class) Surburban (Real American) Teenager (I've got 17 years of being smarter then you)"

you are a Right Winger at Wu Tang website

somethings not adding up here

[knowcheeze]

"First there was disappearance of Camilo Cienfuegos under questionable circumstances as Castro consolidated power."

consolidated power?

cee the universe is soooo magical
how you just making yourself look so
idiotic

Fidel was el Comandante from the go get

when Che, Camillo, Fidel and em hopped on
da Granma in Fifty Six.....Fidel was the H-N-I-C
Che was a medic
Camillo joined up with Fidel

do you know whut HNIC means?

pshhhhhhhh......Consolidated power?

huh?

what a bunch of mischief makers

like eye said all ruthlessness aside

who's gonna protect Tupac's aunt?

will Las Vegas protect Tupac's aunt

eternal praises is due to the black GOd Allah
and Jah Rastafari!!!!!

and thank you for
allowing me to smite some of thee with
da mighty e-sword

[Ghost In The 'Lac]

Words from an ACTUALY Cuban, from the time

I feel that I have to intervene here.

I was six years old in 1959 living in a small town in what was then the Pinar de Rio providence of Cuba. Today that town is in Habana Campo. Of course at that age I did not have an understanding of the chaos and events going on around me. Violence had not really touched the western Providences the way they had affected the eastern Providences from where the barbudos had marched down from the Sierra Maestra. I remember my father's euphoric enthusiasm and hope for Cuba's future when Batista fled. I remember him wearing his red and black armband with the number 26 on it. I remember also my mothers sarcasm at the new leader of Cuba and her criticism of my father for being a Castro supporter. That euphoric enthusiasm slowly turned to disappointment as the summary executions became a regular event in Cuba mainly revealed through rumors and unoffial then official reports. First there was disappearance of Camilo Cienfuegos under questionable circumstances as Castro consolidated power. That was the final event that turned my father against the new Castro government. My mother could not help that I told you so. I remember my uncles and grandfather being picked up and detained for no reason other than suspicion for being counter-revolutionaries, which they weren't. They were opposed to the new regime, but that was grounds for suspicion. I remember the vigils of my mother, my aunts and grandmother at the notorious Guanajay prison trying to get word on their men, brothers, husbands and sons. Later one of those uncles would do 2 tours in the Cuban adventure in Angola. A total of 4 years in the African jungles. I remember in the early 60's right before the missile crises as my father was forced to dig huge trenches. I'm still not sure what they were for. I remember the blackouts in the middle of the night and how my house trembled. How my father and I peeked out the window and we saw large tread-ed vehicles with canopies covering something cylindrical as cargo. My sister and I were sent to Habana were it as safer. But were does Guevara come in? Guevara tied all of this together and I came to realize this later. My father took me one afternoon to the Malecon. The iconic walk along the shores of Habana Harbour. On the other side of the harbour is the famous Morro Castle with it's iconic lighthouse built during colonial times. Adjacent to it was La Cabana, an old Spanish presidio or prison. I remember my father asking me to be quiet and to let him listen as we stood there on the Malecon. I listened too. I could hear a distant cracking sound. I knew he heard too. I asked what the cracking sound was, I didn't get an answer. Later when I was older I realized that the cracking sound was the firing squad ending men's lives. Some of them as young as 18 years old. Today an 18 year old to me is more a child than a man. Guevara was the head of the revolutionary tribunals that was handing down these death sentences. He was a one man judge and jury and appeals panel all wrapped into one. He had the final word on these men's lives. He personally sentenced over 800 men to their deaths. The overwhelming majority, if not all, summarily executed on political grounds. Not for criminal offenses. Guevara was a mass murderer. A violator of the most basic human right, the right to life. For whom he was, I could not imagine a more fitting end for him in the mountains of Bolivia. He deserved his end, in some ways it was poetic justice. Some people are such a plague on humanity that it is better that they don't exist. Guevara was one of those people. He died like the animal that he was.

As for the admiration I see many have for Guevara I like to subscribe to Jose Marti philosophy on this, "sin patria pero sin amo".

source http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread501866/pg2


Your a victim of the power of image.

I'll tell you again, as your so obsessed by it

His qoutes are posted on racist sites, because he was a racist. Why are you so heated about the fact?

these same qoutes are posted all over the web, I copy and pasted mine from Yahoo answers.

http://bastarduniverse.blogspot.com/...-and-anti.html

black pride website
http://boards.brownpride.com/showthr...ist-54670.html

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread501866/pg1