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    Default Fort Hood shooting

    this took place a while ago, on november of 2009, at Fort Hood. which is the most populous U.S. military base in the world. the shooter was an American-born Muslim named Nidal Hasan. he killed 13 people and wounded 30 others, mostly soldiers. I know this is kind of old news, but I read an article on it again recently. some people say it was an inside job from Anwar al Awlaki, another american muslim. either that, or just stress, because he didn't want to deploy to Afghan to kill fellow muslims. what do you guys think?



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    as long as people who want to kill people are killing other people that want to kill people,then they're killing all the right people
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    Quote Originally Posted by theheavens View Post
    .... the shooter was an American-born Muslim named Nidal Hasan.
    A muslim is a 'person of peace' by definition and if they do crimes like what was said was done, they are no longer muslim.

    How are the highlighted words revelent to what was done?

    Why do you think the words 'American born' was used and what is being implied?

    What are the implications of calling an accused murderer a 'muslim'?

    Is the assumed religion of others brought up when they do crimes? Why or why not?

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    I wasn't hinting at anything, but they said he was talking to another american muslim who was believed to be involved with al-queda just before the shooting. so they think it might've been inspired by that. but he also said he didn't want to be deployed to Afghan to kill fellow muslims. he was 1 day away from being deployed there

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    You lack intelligence.

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    The shooter has a mental illness.









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    Quote Originally Posted by check two View Post
    The shooter has a mental illness.
    Exactly.

    That's the issue.

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    the guy shouted "Allahu Akbar" before shooting

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    It was an act of Terror, but so is every murder for political purpose or crime committed in the name of a cause. Everyone makes a big deal about it as if it's only terrorism if a muslim does it. It's terrorism if you do something to induce a panic or reaction of fear.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_massacre
    ^happened in 1991. Killeen, TX and Ft Hood are basically one and the same. The place is a shithole full of negative energy that hangs around like a Warner Bros storm cloud.

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    FMJ brings up a good point. No one cares what the religion of the shooter is unless it's in contrast to their own beliefs. This allows that person to assume that all people with opposing viewpoints is capable of doing the same thing, unaware that people with the same world views as them are capable of doing unspeakable things also.


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    Well it was somewhat relevant in this instance in that his reasons and supposed connections to extremism related to his religion. Whether or not you think that represents a proper Muslim doesn't really matter.

    ....just like it's worth noting that the guy who shot Dr. Tiller was a an extreme Pro-Life Christian.

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    Nope.

    People who have no claim to a religion commit murders as well.

    Should it be noted that non-religious people who commit murders are not religious?

    If so, what is the relevance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    Nope.

    People who have no claim to a religion commit murders as well.

    Should it be noted that non-religious people who commit murders are not religious?

    If so, what is the relevance?
    If their non-religion somehow motivated the murder, then yes. It wouldn't make much sense since lack of something is usually not a motivation or position, just a default of not being something. (For instance, not being a communist is not the same as being an anti-communist). So for a person's non-religion to be relevant, it would probably have to do with some kind of militantly anti-religious stance that would motivate them to murder.

    In this case, the shooter was most likely mentally ill, however, the fact that he was communicating with an extremist imam and the fact that he supposedly committed the shooting because he was against the U.S. killing fellow Muslims makes his religion relevant. It's not that hard to understand. You just happen to be an apologist for Islam so your skin crawls any time something negative is associated with Islam.

    If he had killed those soldiers because he had just gotten fired or had been in contact with some kind of secular anti-U.S. organization, then the mention of his religion may have been gratuitous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    In this case, the shooter was most likely mentally ill, however, the fact that he was communicating with an extremist imam and the fact that he supposedly committed the shooting because he was against the U.S. killing fellow Muslims makes his religion relevant. It's not that hard to understand. .
    You really do not know what you are talking about. The religion is irrelevant. You do not know for a fact that some imam was communicating with him. The news media says this of course, but because there is a double standard when relaying news about topics related to groups of people they don't like, those reports lack credibility.

    You do not know for a fact that he was against the U.S. killing people over seas. That makes no sense and is inconsistent. According to reports, he has already been in fighting overseas, so if he was against it, he most likely would have been against it in the beginning - before being sent, not after being sent. This is like a person saying "I am against killing people" after he just came back from fighting in a war - NO SENSE.

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