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    Do you know what critical thinking is? All you do is cherry pick info and make speculations just so your precious Islam isn't sullied.

    I really don't care whether or not the news reports are accurate. They may or may not be, however, these are issues that came up. I never said I knew these things for a fact. But in light of the fact that these concerns came up, it was considered relevant to mention that he was Muslim. It wasn't like they randomly put it in there. There's the possibility that his religious vocation motivated the killing, so it was relevant. End of story. Notice I'm not saying any of this is certain, only that the information was relevant due to the circumstances.

    Do you know whether he was registered Republican, Democrat, or something else? No, because it's not relevant information. If, however, all the soldiers he shot happened to be registered Republicans, and there was some information suggesting he really hated Republicans because he was an extremist Democrat, then it would be relevant to note.

    Once again, I point you to the recent murder of Dr. George Tiller, a physician who was murdered because he provided abortions. If some random robber had shot him to death at night to steal his money, it probably wouldn't be noteworthy to mention that person's religious or political persuasion unless it seemed to have contributed to him being targeted. It is, however, noteworthy that the actual murderer Scott Roeder was a militant anti-abortion, anti-government activist with ties to right-wing Christian militia movements since he assassinated the doctor point blank in broad daylight in a public space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    You really do not know what you are talking about. The religion is irrelevant. You do not know for a fact that some imam was communicating with him. The news media says this of course, but because there is a double standard when relaying news about topics related to groups of people they don't like, those reports lack credibility.

    You do not know for a fact that he was against the U.S. killing people over seas. That makes no sense and is inconsistent. According to reports, he has already been in fighting overseas, so if he was against it, he most likely would have been against it in the beginning - before being sent, not after being sent. This is like a person saying "I am against killing people" after he just came back from fighting in a war - NO SENSE.

    Do you know what critical thinking is?
    Why wouldn't you be more against something after seeing it happen? I'd think it bothered him before his first deployment to be involved, but he dismissed it out of duty and patriotism. Then after seeing it first hand it got to him. If he wasn't unstable he'd have just resigned. But his instability, his religious beliefs, and his feeling of a trespass against God would build up until he lost it.

    But while it doesn't matter that he's a Muslim, it is clearly a motivating factor. If he was an atheist it could still have happened, but his Muslim beliefs were a factor in how it did happen. So whether or not he killed people for religious reasons it was an act of terrorism and needs to be treated as such. You kill a Cop it's an auto death penalty because he is the embodiment of the law. You kill a Soldier it should be treason because he is the embodiment of the state.
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    Alright so from now on when anyone commits a crime,
    let's put all their information

    skin color, religion, hair length & color, eye color, physical form, height, weight, shoe size, dick size, how much pubic n body hair, facial size, etc

    for example
    a black Muslim with a ceaser cut medium nappy texture with brown eyes and of 5'10" height with 175 lbs medium-cut body stature size 11 shoesize commited a murder yesterday night

    or you can say
    (name) killed (name)

    that is all. Choose one or the other.
    Why describe only race n religion? If yure gonna describe the person then fully describe them or don't desribe them at all

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    Who cares, I'm just saying He's a terrorist because he shot soldiers. If I shot soldiers that'd make me a terrorist too. It's a crime against the military and thus country. I don't care what he looks like, who he is, or what he is doing. He shot young American soldiers in cold blood. That's not acceptable.

    The fact he's Arab or even Muslim is irrelevant. I'm not mad because they're pretending he's not a Muslim, I'm mad because they didn't call it a terror attack because it would look bad. It was an attack and it inspired a lot of terror. Terror Attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post

    I really don't care whether or not the news reports are accurate.
    Oh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
    It wasn't like they randomly put it in there. There's the possibility that his religious vocation motivated the killing, so it was relevant.
    Impossible and not proven. If somebody wants to murder, they would look for any reason to 'justify' it.





    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy View Post
    Why wouldn't you be more against something after seeing it happen? I'd think it bothered him before his first deployment to be involved, but he dismissed it out of duty and patriotism.
    That makes no sense. Anybody with the intelligence of a grade schooler knows that war is about killing people. Anybody who signs up for war should know this; it's a given.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy View Post
    Then after seeing it first hand it got to him. If he wasn't unstable he'd have just resigned. But his instability, his religious beliefs, and his feeling of a trespass against God would build up until he lost it.
    You have a profound imagination.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy View Post
    But while it doesn't matter that he's a Muslim, it is clearly a motivating factor.
    Contradictioin.

    Again, murders are commited on all types of pretenses, none of them are right.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy View Post
    If he was an atheist it could still have happened, but his Muslim beliefs were a factor in how it did happen..
    Could you please explain how his 'muslim beliefs' were a factor?



    Quote Originally Posted by Sham-iLL View Post
    Alright so from now on when anyone commits a crime,
    let's put all their information

    skin color, religion, hair length & color, eye color, physical form, height, weight, shoe size, dick size, how much pubic n body hair, facial size, etc

    for example
    a black Muslim with a ceaser cut medium nappy texture with brown eyes and of 5'10" height with 175 lbs medium-cut body stature size 11 shoesize commited a murder yesterday night

    or you can say
    (name) killed (name)

    that is all. Choose one or the other.
    Why describe only race n religion? If yure gonna describe the person then fully describe them or don't desribe them at all
    hahah


    I've noticed on news reports, when a criminal bulleten is put up and the guy is white, they rarely ever mention he is white, but when the criminal is non-white, they make sure they mention his skin colour.

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    White Protestant is default... Anything else is a minority. Obvi.
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    This guy is a murderer and a terrorist. We should never have gone to great lengths to revive this man and keep him alive via a ventilator in the hospital. We went to great lengths to save this man's life and afford him a fair trial. Some claim that he is mentally ill. The guy was a psychiatrist or the military. How can you be a Psychiatrist and be mentally ill? LMAO!

    I am amazed to what extent the liberal media has gone to protect this guy and to play down the severity of his crimes. He killed the very people who were going to stand beside him in battle. He betrayed the people who were entrusting him with their lives. He is a traitor and should be charged and convicted in the court of law!

    He is now paralyzed from the waist down. Though he killed 13 people, he actually shot 43 people!!! One of the people he killed was a pregnant woman!

    Here are the brave 13 people who were killed who Liberals SHOULD be giving their sympathy to instead of the jackass Nidal Hassan:

    The 13 killed were:
    Name Age Hometown Rank or occupation Michael Grant Cahill[31] 62 Spokane, Washington Civilian Physician Assistant Libardo Eduardo Caraveo[32] 52 Woodbridge, Virginia Major Justin Michael DeCrow[33] 32 Plymouth, Indiana Staff Sergeant John P. Gaffaney[34] 56 Serra Mesa, California Captain[35] Frederick Greene[31] 29 Mountain City, Tennessee Specialist Jason Dean Hunt[31] 22 Tipton, Oklahoma Specialist Amy Sue Krueger[31] 29 Kiel, Wisconsin Staff Sergeant Aaron Thomas Nemelka[31] 19 West Jordan, Utah Private First Class Michael S. Pearson[36] 22 Bolingbrook, Illinois Private First Class Russell Gilbert Seager[29] 51 Racine, Wisconsin Captain[37] Francheska Velez ‡[38] 21 Chicago, Illinois Private First Class Juanita L. Warman[29] 55 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Lieutenant Colonel[39] Kham See Xiong[31] 23 Saint Paul, Minnesota Private First Class

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    Kill and be killed - that is part of being a soldier.

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