01.01.2021
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 23

Thread: Matthew 15:24 (question for the christians)

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Guardian of the 1st house Hellspawn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    2,125
    Rep Power
    28

    Default Matthew 15:24 (question for the christians)

    New International Version (©1984)
    He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

    New Living Translation (©2007)
    Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent only to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel."

    English Standard Version (©2001)
    He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

    New American Standard Bible (©1995)
    But He answered and said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

    International Standard Version (©2008)
    But he replied, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the nation of Israel."

    GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
    Jesus responded, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the nation of Israel."

    King James Bible
    But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    American King James Version
    But he answered and said, I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    American Standard Version
    But he answered and said, I was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Bible in Basic English
    But he made answer and said, I was sent only to the wandering sheep of the house of Israel.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    And he answering, said: I was not sent but to the sheep that are lost of the house of Israel.

    Darby Bible Translation
    But he answering said, I have not been sent save to the lost sheep of Israel's house.

    English Revised Version
    But he answered and said, I was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Webster's Bible Translation
    But he answered and said, I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    Weymouth New Testament
    "I have only been sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel," He replied.

    World English Bible
    But he answered, "I wasn't sent to anyone but the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

    Young's Literal Translation
    and he answering said, 'I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.'

    So I was wondering, if Jesus was sent only to save the house of Israel, who's gon save the rest of the humanity ?

  2. #2
    The People's Champ Visionz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Age
    45
    Posts
    13,477
    Rep Power
    60

    Default

    the only one who can, ourselves (though I'd say I'm only christian-influenced and not christian)

    Support the Real. Click HERE

  3. #3

    Default

    When Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of israel, he didn`t mean his teachings where for the jews only , he meant he was sent only to do his works and miracles for the jews, because the jews where the only ones until that point who where following God, and awaiting the messiah !!!!!...I mean think about it if all humanity was in need of saving and Jesus came down from heaven today and started to first help the people who didn`t believe or give a rats about him or God, instead of the ones who do ???? how would that be fair ?????...It wouldn`t !!!!!

    No God wanted the jews to receive the promise of God first and to help them first to reward them for their loyalty, then through the jewish disciples of jesus the rest of humanity would be helped, so in this way all will know that its is from the jews that salvation of mankind comes, so as to bring them honor on earth for there service and loyalty to God when the rest of the world was practicing evil...

    also this passage you posted shows God is a loving God because Jesus still helped the women who was not a jew.


    peace be with you !
    Last edited by zooruka; 04-27-2010 at 07:26 PM.

  4. #4
    Dinosaur Hunter Slippy The Pimp's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Shadowland
    Age
    43
    Posts
    7,472
    Rep Power
    50

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by prof zooruka View Post
    When Jesus said he was sent only to the lost sheep of israel, he didn`t mean his teachings where for the jews only , he meant he was sent only to do his works and miracles for the jews, because the jews where the only ones until that point who where following God, and awaiting the messiah !!!!!...I mean think about it if all humanity was in need of saving and Jesus came down from heaven today and started to first help the people who didn`t believe or give a rats about him or God, instead of the ones who do ???? how would that be fair ?????...It wouldn`t !!!!!

    No God wanted the jews to receive the promise of God first and to help them first to reward them for their loyalty, then through the jewish disciples of jesus the rest of humanity would be helped, so in this way all will know that its is from the jews that salvation of mankind comes, so as to bring them honor on earth for there service and loyalty to God when the rest of the world was practicing evil...

    also this passage you posted shows God is a loving God because Jesus still helped the women who was not a jew.


    peace be with you !
    So all those other people that worshiped god around the world......what were they?

  5. #5

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by WARPATH View Post
    So all those other people that worshiped god around the world......what were they?
    They were not woshipping God they where worshiping demons....all religions in that time and many of thousands of years before where all idol based and the bible says that behind the idols of there beliefs where demons



    1 corinthians 10:20


    No, but the sacrifices of pagans (anyone who is not jewish) are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.

    peace be with you !

  6. #6
    The People's Champ Visionz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Age
    45
    Posts
    13,477
    Rep Power
    60

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by prof zooruka View Post
    They were not woshipping God they where worshiping demons....all religions in that time and many of thousands of years before where all idol based and the bible says that behind the idols of there beliefs where demons



    1 corinthians 10:20


    No, but the sacrifices of pagans (anyone who is not jewish) are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.

    peace be with you !
    you have no idea wtf you're talking about. I'm not saying there wasn't SOME idol worship going on but to think and then proclaim that was the only thing happening before judaism is unequivocally incorrect.

    Here's something you have a hard time wrapping your head around but as a person if in your own mind you are paying homage to THE Source of ALL LIFE and the Source of ALL CREATION, then you are in fact praying and respecting the ONE TRUE GOD. There is ONLY ONE worthy of the title. Jews don't have a monopoly on that train of thought and the thought was arrived to independently among many cultures across the world.

    You don't agree and I don't care. The truth is its own defense.

    Its funny you should bring up Idol-worship though.

    i·dol

     /ˈaɪdl/ Show Spelled[ahyd-l] Show IPA
    –noun1.an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
    2.Bible. a.an image of a deity other than god.
    b.the deity itself.


    3.any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion: Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
    4.a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
    5.a figment of the mind; fantasy.
    6.a false conception or notion; fallacy.




















    Now go head and make up a bunch of hair-splitting excuses for all this idolatry I have brought before you..........and be full of shit as you do it. You're no better than the ones you condemn.

    Matthew 6:5 – "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
    Last edited by Visionz; 04-29-2010 at 05:50 AM.

    Support the Real. Click HERE

  7. #7
    The People's Champ Visionz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Age
    45
    Posts
    13,477
    Rep Power
    60

    Default

    first, if Jesus came down tomorrow as a regular human, ruka wouldn't recognize him and might even try to convert him. Second he, ruka, fundamentally lacks the actual essence of what he was about. He wouldn't go to the people that needed him the least, he'd go to those that needed him most.

    Support the Real. Click HERE

  8. #8
    The Smell of The Future LORD NOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Double Barreled Snot Gun
    Age
    1
    Posts
    15,139
    Rep Power
    82

    Default

    23Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."
    24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."
    25The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.
    26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
    27"Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."









    Dam - he called her and her people, dogs














    Quote Originally Posted by prof zooruka View Post

    No God wanted the jews to receive the promise of God first and to help them first to reward them for their loyalty, then through the jewish disciples of jesus the rest of humanity would be helped, so in this way all will know that its is from the jews that salvation of mankind comes, so as to bring them honor on earth for there service and loyalty to God when the rest of the world was practicing evil...

    also this passage you posted shows God is a loving God because Jesus still helped the women who was not a jew.


    peace be with you !







    look at humanity NOW !


    did it work ?

  9. #9
    Winter is Coming THE MASON's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Temple of the King
    Posts
    12,432
    Rep Power
    140

    Default

    "Two people return to their long neglected garden and find, among the weeds, that a few of the old plants are surprisingly vigorous. One says to the other, 'It must be that a gardener has been coming and doing something about these weeds.' The other disagrees and an argument ensues. They pitch their tents and set a watch. No gardener is ever seen. The believer wonders if there is an invisible gardener, so they patrol with bloodhounds but the bloodhounds never give a cry. Yet the believer remains unconvinced, and insists that the gardener is invisible, has no scent and gives no sound. The sceptic doesn't agree, and asks how a so-called invisible, intangible, elusive gardener differs from an imaginary gardener, or even no gardener at all." - John Wisdom

    Ruka, please read the full version of John Wisdoms - Parable of the Invisible Gardner - with an open mind, if you dont understand i will gladly assist in deciphering the meaning for you

  10. #10
    The Smell of The Future LORD NOSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Double Barreled Snot Gun
    Age
    1
    Posts
    15,139
    Rep Power
    82

    Default

    "that was just a black woman"


    some one told me that when i pointed out this scripture to them

  11. #11

    Default

    The Judeans, Galileans, some Samaritans, and Hellenists of the 1st century were all Israelites. The kingdom of Israel which had been scattered after the captivity truly was no longer in tact, but even the Jews (Judeans) were Israelites.


    Who was the new covenant made with ?

    Hebrews 8

    8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

    9Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

    10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

    11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

    12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

    13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.


    Thats why Jesus sent the disciples to look for the lost sheep of the House of Israel, and thats what they did. Follow the disciples journeys and thats where the lost sheep were 2000 years ago.

    After the split of Israel and Judah around 917 BC, the two houses were considered as seperate entities, the House of Israel and the House of Judah. There are different prophecies regarding each House. Failure to recognise this will mean that you won't really understand a lot of prophecy.

  12. #12
    John Prewett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    rural Thailand
    Age
    75
    Posts
    83
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    It's so simple. Why make it complicated. The Hebrew/Jewish culture was created as the God designated portal through which God spoke and promised a Messiah. Jesus came and is the Messiah. When Jesus came in the flesh, He came to the culture that had been prepared explicitly for Him. Like a diamond needs a setting. But God is the creator of ALL humans,.... and Jesus has ALL POWER in heaven and earth. And the message of salvation in Jesus has been made known to the whole world. "Whosoever calls on Jesus will be saved" WHOSOEVER MEANS WHOSOEVER. "For God so loved the WORLD ....." In the flesh Jesus came to the nation/culture prepared for Messiah [though OT scripture predicted the Jewish leadership would "stumble over the stumbling stone" which it did]. But the message of salvation is for WHOSOEVER all over the world.

  13. #13
    The ABBOTT Dokuro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    in your Head
    Posts
    8,565
    Rep Power
    37

    Default

    this one s two easy... i'll pass
    went to the woods, spent time alone, meditated under a waterfall climb to the highest peak of the mountain; now I'm back, enlightened, fully trained, to be the greatest Jackass the Corp has ever seen. all hail Me, you fucking Skruds.


  14. #14
    Gen Chat Bully Uncle Steezo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    5th Dimension
    Posts
    14,615
    Rep Power
    129

    Default

    if he came to the ones that were prepared for him, then did that preparation include killing him too?

  15. #15
    John Prewett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    rural Thailand
    Age
    75
    Posts
    83
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by STYLE View Post
    if he came to the ones that were prepared for him,
    then did that preparation include killing him too?
    They were prepared in that the word/prophecy was given and available.

    However, among Jews, as among all humans,...

    some choose to heed. Others choose to ignore.

    Also some, like the Sanhedrin are subject to the added pressure of being
    leaders forced to watch a young "up and comer" grow more influential.

    Like Saul was forced to watch the growing popularity of David.

    OT scripture shows that God knew in advance His Son would be crucified.

    As today Revelation shows that after he "amazes the world" and becomes
    world dictator, the "beast" will cause Jesus's people to be mass murdered.

    As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long;
    we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Romans 8:36

    ETERNAL LIFE,... is what it is all about.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •