You know where everything started to go wrong?

[Koolish]

when teenagers came into being.

think about it, 60 years ago there was a defining point in a life of a male, where he had to question "am i a boy, or am i a man?", and he would become that man, and do his little thing.

now it's no question, no one is a man or a boy, we're all just confused.
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[thwak]

it was longer than 60 years ago, think like 120 years ago. most people back then when they became of a certain age or puberty they were considered adult. so that was good up until maybe the end of the civil war.

[Sicka than aidZ]

i dont think anythings wrong. why do u think that?

[Kennings]

yea man, I dont think you can blame teenagers of shit...especially b.c theyre simply the mindless products of their enviornment.

[Mumm Ra]

you calling yourself mindless? I know I wasn't when I was a teen

[CydonianArtifact]

All I can think of is the media ...

[Kado]

teenagers aint products of their environment, people are, age just determines how immune and mature you be come to the obstacles of ur neighborhood environment ..

[Koolish]

nah, delete this
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[Kennings]

Im not at all...just remember lookin around all the time and seein how they the majority were...easily being able to classify each kid in a particular group. And when youre a teen you really dont have any room to choose whatchu wanna do still, youre still under your parents control, taking classes that they tell you you should take, heavily targeted by the media, etc. They cant really help half te shit they do or get into

[Os3y3ris]

I hate this shit. Whenever people start missing the old days, they're suspect in my book. 60 years ago? That was 1945. They were still hanging motherfuckers from trees. OH YEH, I AM SO THERE. The men were hiding behind sheets, murdering all types of people for no reason at all. The children were there watching, taking human remains as souvenirs. And the law didn't give a shit. Oh yes, lets go back to the 40s. Shit, in fact, lets hit the height of the lynchings. The 20s and shit, where the media had people signing up for the damn kukluxklan. Ah, I miss the good old days of America.

Clear sign that the brain washing is working when you have people looking back at a genocidal police state wondering how we've let our morals slip since then.

[Kephrem]

I'm pretty sure Koolish was refering to the idea back when the "teenager" came into being and how over the years it has suggested to the American youth culture (then world youth) to remain with a prolonged immature mindset. (ages 13-19 ) I don't think the implication was we should go back to that time.

[Os3y3ris]

He said that EVERYTHING started to go wrong when the teenager was created, implying some form of moral decay prevalent in society with that being the CAUSE, not the effect. The basic premise that there is some sort of decay in this society is flawed so whether or not you attribute it to teenagers is irrelevant.

If there is no moral decay, then how has anything gone wrong with the creation of the teenager? He'd have no reason to make the thread.

[Alcryt]

All I can think of is the media ...

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[blackwisdom]

The Boy Scouts of America came into existance from a man that witnessed the Zulu Boys Rites of Passage. With Rites of Passages, like bar mitzvahs, boys are trained to be men. When those types of systems are in place, young boys can learn to be men from the elders of the communities. Without these structures we are doomed to the types of conditions that you state. The destruction of civilizations due to imperialism and capitalistic objectives degrade the human in man. Therefore, we don't cherish our flesh over external material possessions. The Trans Atlantic African Holocaust destroyed the Africans in the Americas way of life. It forced (Indigenous American) tribal life in the Americas to drastically be altered. Instead of having small tribes where this type of nurturing environment could exist, the tribes had to band together into a massive nation to battle the White Supremist Imperials of Europe.

Long answer, but the short version is:Uncivilized individuals (youths to be specific to this thread) are one of the many side effects of the mass destruction of "civilization" by comerce driven barbarians.

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[Kephrem]

The basic premise that there is some sort of decay in this society is flawed so whether or not you attribute it to teenagers is irrelevant.

So you are a proponent then of the current social constructs that permeate Amerikkka?