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    ok, but motor vehicles?

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    ^maybe the absurdity of it was the point...it seems less plasuible, although i don't know why anyone would find the idea of a politically motivated hit inconceivable.

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    For the record here, the architectural design of the twin towers was fairly unique, in regards to the structural engineering that supported the mass of the two buildings.

    The entire structural system that held those buildings up was a system of perimeter steel framing that basically eliminated the need for interior columns in either building. The reason for this was simple ... less interior columns meant more usable (read: rentable) floor space and more $$$ per square foot of lease space. The only interior elements of any part of any floor of either building were the internal stairwells, the elevator shafts, the bathrooms, HVAC shafts, and whatever else was needed per floor like telephone/IT/server rooms. These areas were very tightly grouped together in a central core of the building and this maximized the interior floor space, per floor. It also meant that the people trying to get out of those buildings were jammed tightly into the buildling code minimum-sized egress stairs, resulting in a jam of thousands of people literally trying to get out of just a few stairwells, each with one door opening at the bottom. You can guess the rest.

    As for the aircraft hitting the buildings, when both aircraft breached the framing of the exterior and weakend the structural frame, it was only a matter of time before the weight of the mass of the buildings above where the damage had occurred via the impact collapsed the buildings like a Jenga game. Seriously.

    The resulting fire from the burning jet fuel contributed to the weakening of the structural steel, and that accelerated the collapse.

    If the planes had hit the buildings very high up, say within one or two floors of the top, then the resulting mass might not have collapsed the entire structure(s), but the people who planned this attack knew what they were doing and had researched the building design as part of their planning. Striking the buildings mid-way in their height sealed each building's doom.

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    lawdy, lawdy, the guvmint's droppin cars on folk now!

    MAYBE the whole reason the illuminati bilded them towers in the first place waz so that they could knock them down in 2001. perfect plan.
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    ah, yeah, I got to vesey and church, where the shit went down. and I figured how they was able to hide and not be seen, in the whole set-up...yeh, 'cause lucifer was collabin' with me [gabriel] at one point, since late '90s...when I comes across jacub in medina [west phila.]...
    ...then he came up with the vesey/christ shit...and I rolled with that for a minute.
    anyway, mumbo-jumbo, right. ahight, wutever...
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    ...yeh, so, well, I got patients about the shit, how it come to me...
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    Go back to section 9 you frooty pebble.

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    The true object of propaganda is neither to convince nor even to persuade, but to produce a uniform pattern of public utterance in which the first trace of unorthodox thought reveals itself as a jarring dissonance. - Leonard Schapiro

    This quote sums up the official story of 9/11 very well
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoTec View Post
    The true object of propaganda is neither to convince nor even to persuade, but to produce a uniform pattern of public utterance in which the first trace of unorthodox thought reveals itself as a jarring dissonance. - Leonard Schapiro

    This quote sums up the official story of 9/11 very well
    ...solid...
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    Italian President Francesco Cossiga: Mossad & CIA Committed 9-11

    > http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...gi?read=114778



    ny was littered with mossad agents on 9/11, mossad agents that were caught celebrating claim they were there to "document the event", owner of the wtc is a former israeli commando, a warning was sent to certain members of odigo(israeli instant messaging service) before the attacks took place. those members informed odigo who later informed the fbi.


    The Austin American-Statesman, November 25, 2001, pg. A-11
    We spoke earlier about the five celebrating Israeli "movers", (Mossad agents), who were arrested and placed in solitary confinement for weeks after they were spotted in a white van suspected of attempting to blow up the George Washington Bridge. We also reviewed how the Israeli owner of Urban Moving Systems - Dominick Suter - then suddenly abandoned his "moving company" and fled for Israel on 9-14. But there were still more Israeli "movers" and other Israelis whose actions raise serious suspicions. Even more suspicious is how they are always quietly released and deported.

    In October of 2001, three more Israeli "movers" were stopped in Plymouth, PA because of their suspicious behavior. These "movers" were seen dumping furniture near a restaurant dumpster! When the restaurant manager approached the driver, a "Middle Eastern" man later identified as Moshe Elmakias fled the scene. The manager made note of the truck's sign which read "Moving Systems Incorporated" and called the police. When the police spotted the truck, two other Israelis - Ayelet Reisler and Ron Katar began acting suspiciously. The Plymouth police searched the truck and found a video. The Israelis were taken into custody and the video tape was played at the police station. The video revealed footage of Chicago with zoomed in shots of the Sears Tower. The police quickly alerted the FBI and it was also discovered that the Israelis had falsified travel logs and phony paperwork on them. (1) They were also unable to provide a name and telephone number for the customer that they claimed to have been working for.

    On October 10, 2001, CNN made a brief mention of a foiled terrorist bomb plot in the Mexican Parliament building. They promised to bring any further developments of this story to their viewers, but the incident was never heard of again in America. But the story appeared in bold headlines on the front page of the major Mexican newspapers (2) and was also posted on the official website of the Mexican Justice Department. (3) Two terror suspects were apprehended in the Mexican Chamber of Deputies. Caught red-handed, they had in their possession a high powered gun, nine hand grenades, and C-4 plastic explosives (great stuff for demolishing buildings!) Within days, this blockbuster story not only disappeared from the Mexican press, but the Israelis were quietly released and deported! The two terrorists were Salvador Gerson Sunke and Sar ben Zui. Can you guess what their ethnicity was? Sunke was a Mexican jew and Zui was a colonel with the Israeli special forces.

    The story in El Diario de Mexico went on to reveal that the Zionist terrorists had fake Pakistani passports on them. Can you say "false flag operation?" The probable motive of this particular botched terrorist operation was to involve oil rich Mexico in the "War on Terrorism". (The War on Israel's enemies would be a more accurate description). Mexico is no military power, but the psychological trauma of an "Arab" attack on Mexico would surely have induced Mexico to provide unlimited cheap oil to her American "protector". With cheap oil flowing to America at low prices from Mexico, the US could better afford to break off relations with the oil rich Arab states in general and Saudi Arabia in particular. That's why the planners chose 15 Saudi identities to steal for the 9-11 operation.

    Many Mexicans expressed shock at the release of the two Israelis. But when you learn that Mexico's Secretary of Foreign Relations is a Zionist named Jorge Gutman, it's not surprising! The Zionist tentacles reach even into Mexico! La Voz de Aztlan (Mexican-American news service), in it's excellent investigative report revealed:

    "La Voz de Aztlan has learned that the Israeli Embassy used heavy handed measures to have the two Israelis released. Very high level emergency meetings took place between Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Jorge Gutman, General Macedo de la Concha and a top Ariel Sharon envoy who flew to Mexico City specially for that purpose. Elías Luf of the Israeli Embassy worked night and day and their official spokeswoman Hila Engelhart went into high gear after many hours of complete silence. What went on during those high level meetings no one knows, but many in Mexico are in disbelief at their release."

    In November of 2001, 6 more suspicious Israelis were detained in an unspecified mid-eastern state. They had in their possession box cutters, oil pipeline plans, and nuclear power plant plans. (6) The local police called in the Feds and Immigration officials took over the scene and released the men without calling the FBI. The Jerusalem Post, the Miami Herald, (7) and the Times of London (8) all carried this amazing story and all revealed how furious FBI officials were that these terror suspects with nuclear power plant plans were allowed to go free.

    In December, 2001, the Los Angeles Times published the story of how two jewish terrorists were arrested by the FBI for plotting to blow up the office of US Congressman of Arab descent - Darrell Issa (R-CA), and a California mosque. (9) Irv Rubin and Earl Kruger of the Jewish Defense League (JDL) were charged with conspiracy to destroy a building by means of explosives.

    In May of 2002, yet another moving van was pulled over in Oak Harbor, Washington near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station. Fox News reported that the van was pulled over for speeding shortly after midnight. The passengers told the police they were delivering furniture, but because it was so late at night, the police weren't buying the story. A bomb sniffing dog was brought in and the dog detected the presence of TNT and RDX plastic explosives in the truck (great stuff for demolishing buildings!) Both Fox News (10) and the Ha'aretz newspaper of Israel (11) reported that the two "movers" were Israelis.

    In May of 2002, yet another moving van was pulled over in Oak Harbor, Washington near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station. Fox News reported that the van was pulled over for speeding shortly after midnight. The passengers told the police they were delivering furniture, but because it was so late at night, the police weren't buying the story. A bomb sniffing dog was brought in and the dog detected the presence of TNT and RDX plastic explosives in the truck (great stuff for demolishing buildings!) Both Fox News (10) and the Ha'aretz newspaper of Israel (11) reported that the two "movers" were Israelis.

    In December, 2002, Ariel Sharon made the amazing claim that Al-Qaeda agents were operating inside of Israel. But when Palestinian authorities apprehended the suspects, they turned out to be Palestinian traitors impersonating Al-qaeda agents for the MOSSAD! From the Sydney Morning Herald of Austrailia:

    "Palestinian security forces have arrested a group of Palestinians for collaborating with Israel and posing as operatives of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terrorist network, a senior official said yesterday. ..The arrests come two days after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon charged al-Qaeda militants were operating in Gaza and in Lebanon.

    It was considered a surprise because the Gaza Strip is virtually sealed off by Israeli troops. The hardline Israeli leader also charged other members of the terror group were cooperating with Lebanon's Shi'ite militia Hizbollah"

    According to FOX news, throughout late 2000 and 2001, a total of 200 Israeli spies were arrested. (13) It was the largest spy ring to ever be uncovered in the history of the United States. The Washington Post also reported that some of these Israelis were arrested in connection with the 9-11 investigation. (14) US. Carl Cameron of FOX News Channel did a excellent four part, nationally televised, series of investigations into this blockbuster scandal. But FOX pulled the investigative series after Zionist groups complained to FOX executives. FOX even went so far as to remove the written transcripts of the series from its website.



    do the math, look beyond the "neo-con" label and find out who those neo-cons are/were. who gained the most from the invasion of iraq and who's pushing us into invading iran? this has happened before, israel attacked the u.s.s liberty to blame it on egypt, could it be that they did the same on 9-11 to blame it on islam?












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    Anyone who really care about the truth should watch this video. It's 1h 20m long, but worth every second.

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