i love all 4 of Eric B. & Rakim's albums, true school shit to the fullest. Groundbreaking lyricism and production but as Guru once stated (on a totally different topic) the ?uestion remains... who the fuck REALLY produced these joints? I did alot of study on this subject over the last year or so and here's what i came up with:
PAID IN FULL
People believe Marley Marl produced the bulk of this and Eric B. did the cuts (remember there's even 3 instrumentals on here with just DJ wizardry on them). Eric B. outraged in an interview about Marley Marl getting the credit for being the producer on "My Melody" and "Eric B. is President" when according to him he was only the engineer. Something like "I knew what records i wanted to have and sounds in there but i didn't know how to work the technical shit so Marley and MC Shan did that but i brought the samples". In these days that would make Marley Marl and MC Shan the producer and Eric B. the co-producer. But if Eric. B didn't know how to work the technical shit who the hell "engineered" the rest of the album? The album sleeve says Patrick Adams but that sleeve also says that Marley was the "remixer" of those tracks mentioned above.
In Brian Coleman's book "Rakim Told Me", Rakim tells Coleman how in fact Eric didn't make most of the production on their debut. "While Marley Marl mixed down alot of it, most of the beats and scratches we hear on the album is actually courtesy of 'The R' himself!
FOLLOW THE LEADER
Their sophmore LP might not have been as groundbreaking but to me it sounds even better and more professional, it still says Written & Produced by Eric B. & Rakim but it also says "all music played by Stevie Blass Griffin" (which also is credited for playing the music on "Move the Crowd" from the debut). there's alot of samples on here so i guess that means the few live instruments used was played by him, anyone know who he is BTW? Once again Patrick Adams is the engineer, but just check how incredible the Jimmy Castor Bunch's "Just Begun" sample is utilized on "Musical Massacre" for example - that's definitely the work of an incredibly talented hip-hop producer.
I heard alot of rumours about Mark The 45 King actually ghost-producing alot of "Follow The Leader" and sound-wise it does make sense since he was one of the best producers of that era (plus he has a remix for "The R" and "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em" so there definitely was a relationship, and the mixes both sound like F.T.L. material). Thing is i have never ever been able to find any concrete information about this ANYWHERE besides rumours so if anyone got a link to either Ra or 45 King or some studio session engineer saying so somewhere please let me know.
LET THE RHYTHM HIT 'EM
This one is a little clearer since it's been revealed from several sources (including Large Professor, Nas, Rakim, people close to Paul C, etc.) that Paul C was contacted by Rakim to be the engineer of the "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em". As already stated most of those engineers in those days (especially Paul C from what i read about his work) would be credited as the main producer today. From an amazing and in depth article on Paul C i learned the following:
* Paul C produced "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em" with Rakim,
(Paul hooked up the Commodore's loop as well as the drums while Rakim added the keyboards from a Bob James song).
* Paul C produced all of "Run For Cover"
* Paul C produced all of "In The Ghetto"
Paul C passed away during the making of the album, but his protogé who had attented most of the studio sessions continued the production on the rest of the album. An article in XXL on Large Pro claimed he ended up producing the bulk of "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em", so we can assume that the remaining 7 songs on the album was produced by Large Professor and Rakim (possibly with some input from Eric. B LOL).
DON'T SWEAT THE TECHNIQUE
The final album from the duo is the hardest to find any concrete information on the production tip on from my experience. To me alot of it sounds like a continuation of "Let The Rhythm Hit 'Em" which makes me assume Large Professor played a large role in crafting the sound.
The sleeve says "Produced by Eric. B & Rakim" and even "All programming by Eric. B & Rakim" but it also says "Production Coordinators: Large Professor, Kerwin Young and Richard Sims". It's possible that Rakim produced alot of this album, as he must have learned alot of production techniques working with Paul C, Large Professor, Marley Marl and The 45 King (later beats credited to him like "Long Island" on 'The Master' LP sounds great). Large Professor and Kerwin Young (who's an associate of The Bomb Squad who also produced for early Mobb Deep) definitely was involved in the production somehow tho, possibly sitting down with Ra and Eric B. and guide them for the programming but that's just a guessing. Long ass and nerdy post (haha) but this is something that's been bugging me and it'll be intersting to hear you're take on it.
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