very goddamn interesting hip-hop sales #s

[junius]

http://www.babygrande.com/scoreboard.jsp

mods: if ya'll wanna move it to Wu chamber because it has some Wu on it, that's cool. since it's mostly not, I put it here.

[iammzac]

Black Milk should've sold more than 7k.. it's a great album..

I didn't know DANGERDOOM sold that much.. I bought it though..

Canibus also deserves more sales..

[Vegan]

wow, bronze naz and black market struggled big time to get sales. and to think, black market had to split that between 4 people!!! wow.

[Vegan]

damn, just saw cilva, didn't even sell 4,000. wow. i wonder how much he made off the album? maybe a few thousand dollars. oh, and rza is down to selling just 21,000 records. man, hip hop fans are fucked up buying some wack ass bullshit.

[Kenny Powers]

thats a pretty legit source, but I was sure fishscale went Gold a while ago, i guess I was given some mis-information.

[Razorsharp]

dang... torture papers only sold 22k... that album is ILL... -__-

[mofo]

Man, I dunno bout ya'll but that page makes me cringe.

Camp Lo and Killah Priest only sold 2k records so far? Shit!

[Vegan]

we are fortunate that some of these cats even bother to bring us music anymore. i suppose they still make money doing tours and selling cd's and other merchandise at the venues. still, priest put out an incredible album and he gets thanked for that with 2000 sales????

[TAURO]

People forget though that this is only US SALES, if we look at worldwide figures they would be much more impressive. I can tell this info is misleading because I know that Hi-Teck's album "Technology 2" is Babygrandes highest selling record.

[Meta4]

wow, bronze naz and black market struggled big time to get sales. and to think, black market had to split that between 4 people!!! wow.

And to think they're gonna make another album... BMM is THE FUCKIN' SHIT. They keep it real as fuck and that's why I copped the album twice.

[junius]

a few things, besides Hell Razah "Renaissance Child" is easily in my top 10 for 2007... & i dig Wisemen a lot also...

1) tho' i'd love to see other indie #s, like Public Enemy, Devin The Dude, Snowgoons, etc. you can see the continual dropoff... Anyone think Alchemist would sell that many today? But, if you figure x % less people downloaded then...

2) I'm ** NOT ** glad to be right but I predicted horrible sales for Killah Priest based on poor in-store stocking & almost no street presence; sorry to say it's even worse than I expected.

3) Sa-Ra is surprisingly low, I thought, & even El-P; I don't like him but that's neither here nor there, he got A LOT of press, has "indie rock" crossover, etc. I do grant that he's a real artist, & kind of dark too, which is probably why (crap) like Aesop sells more but...

worldwide ** is ** important; almost everyone here loves someone like Shabazz but i can tell ya'll, Killah Priest is like fucking Jay-Z compared to 'Bazz even here in BK: he's almost totally unknown but he can get shows in Europe, etc.

4) Prodigy "Return of the Mack" did surprisingly well in this context.

5) Where's Saigon?

[11th Chamber]

wtf. I thought Fishscale went gold?

[J-DON]

return of the mack was pretty tight IMO there will always be curious back in the day mobb fans

[junius]

J- oh, def. I'm a big Mobb fan & even rate "Blood Money" a 7/10 (could have been better if the best of their G-Unit stuff made the cut, check various mixtapes), I just meant that was a pretty good #, all things told.

I'm also curious how Mos Def did. Remember when it was going to be recalled & then get another issue? More major label lies but I guess everybody figured out... eh, who cares? (Including me.)

What I take out of this thing, even incomplete, is that tho' we fight amongst ourselves about stuff, it's a really bad time for hip-hop overall. I'm a 50 fan, not into Kanye, but truth is, NEITHER of them mean ** anything ** to the game overall. The do well for themselves but Graduation #1, Curtis #2 is NOT going to help Hell Razah, Black Milk, etc etc. (Don't even get me started about Dipset junk, regardless of how much street cred they have in some parts of the city.)

Lastly, all those bonus dvds (like Cilva, like Keith Murray Best Buy, etc) don't seem to help much either.

[Marc051]

It's sad but definitley not surprising at all. The only artists who are gonna sell are those who got a rep outside of this label..i.e Redman, Prodigy, Ghostface. There's a couple of interesting things about it though...I never knew MF Doom had so many fan. As for Canibus's last album I might be the only one who thinks that shit was garbage so I'm glad it didn't sell many units.