I predict a civil war in Spain come next year

[The Hound]

La Liga would die without Barcelona too. You're spot on about the Basque's they would want their independence 5 minutes later. Does Galicia want independence as well? The thing with Spain is that a lot of these autonomous regions and communities never bought in to the idea of Madrid/Spain like other regions did across Europe so these issues are never going to be resolved and the longer it goes on the more it goes on the more it wI'll strengthen. You wouldn't see Bavaria claim independence. I can see Spain going the way of Yugoslavia just without the big war.

Wow I didn't realise the Kurds were having a referendum. How come everyone hates them?

[Rev Jones]

La Liga would die without Barcelona too. You're spot on about the Basque's they would want their independence 5 minutes later. Does Galicia want independence as well? The thing with Spain is that a lot of these autonomous regions and communities never bought in to the idea of Madrid/Spain like other regions did across Europe so these issues are never going to be resolved and the longer it goes on the more it goes on the more it wI'll strengthen. You wouldn't see Bavaria claim independence. I can see Spain going the way of Yugoslavia just without the big war.

Wow I didn't realise the Kurds were having a referendum. How come everyone hates them?

I lived in Bavaria for just over half a year (in the late 90s). there is a historic movement of its people wanting to regain independence for their region. some people have maps of an 'independent Bavaria' up on their living room walls

an enquiry dating back to July found that out of all Bundesländer Bavaria longs for independence the most. it's still only one third of the Bavarian population though https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...land-sind.html (article is in German, vid shows you percentages)

Bavaria is a well off region. Just like the North of Italy striving for independence these regions think they can make it on their own because their finances are healthy

actual independence for Bavaria is not realistic though. it's in the average German's psyche to obey (it seems like a cliche but it's mostly true, especially in rural areas, as I experienced when I lived in Germany), and I don't see any evidence of a rise of the independence vote. the only thing that would be able to change this imo is if Bavaria is flooded by economic and political refugees because of the central government's policy.

btw Germany's biggest political party CDU (christian democratic union) has local party divisions in each Bundesland, except for Bavaria, where there is a separate party called CSU (christian socialist union) that makes sure Bayern's voice is heard in Berlin. as such it can act as a mitigating party (getting shit done for Bavaria in Berlin) or a possible factor in furthering the independence cause for Bavaria. in the past the CSU has threatened to cut ties with the CDU on several occasions over political friction


today there are federal elections in Germany btw